First, I appologize if this is in the wrong posting. I have a '71 Catalina 27, and I sail around the SF Bay area. It has the atomic 4 inboard and I use the motor a lot more than I would like. Mostly it is because it is a slow pig in light winds, second is because the halyard winches are mounted on either side of the mast. That means that I have to secure the tiller while I run up to the mast to adjust the winches. So, reefing is a pain. Also, I am thinking about purchasing an asymetrical Spinaker, or maybe an Genoa and that will need some more rigging. Now, I don't really mean to one hand it, but a boat this size should come pretty close. And the mates I usually get arew even more inexperienced than I am. If someone could come up with a schematic and parts list that would be great. Also, those of you who sail in the Bay, how come I keep finding the Bay Bridge wind shadow. That means, how can I cross under the Bay bridge under sail. It seems that my inexperience always leads me to a calm on either side of Treasure island. Another thing is, I am berthed inside of Alameda. Is there a way to get in and out without motoring? I can tack, but boy is that nerve wracking with those huge freighters. I have years of knowledge in all kind of engines and a thorough knowledge of electrical systems. If someone would like to do a casual knowledge exchange of technical to sailing that would really be cool. I love this board in that as basic as I feel in my question, I know that it will be received well. Thanks, Tom Thanks, Tom
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Tim Schaaf
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Single handling a Cat 27 should be a snap. Try motoring at very low speed, with the tiller lashed to one side, so that you go in a gentle circle. Raise the main as you come up into the wind. Eventually you will get better at it, but this way does work. To make reefing easier, learn to "heave to". You should be able to ease the main and reef it while "hove to". You will have to tack, most of the time while you head out of the Estuary. It bears dead into the wind. But, if you keep an eye out for traffic, it is doable. Practice on a weekday, when there aren't too many other pleasure boats around. The Bay Bridge does have lots of wind shadows, but is often easier on the T.I. side of the span linking it to S.F.....and check for current. Dare I suggest that some time spent in some of the sailing courses at the Cal Sailing Club (the least expensive way to learn to sail on the Bay) might ease many of your concerns, and give you the chance to meet some interesting and like-minded people!
Single handling a Cat 27 should be a snap. Try motoring at very low speed, with the tiller lashed to one side, so that you go in a gentle circle. Raise the main as you come up into the wind. Eventually you will get better at it, but this way does work. To make reefing easier, learn to "heave to". You should be able to ease the main and reef it while "hove to". You will have to tack, most of the time while you head out of the Estuary. It bears dead into the wind. But, if you keep an eye out for traffic, it is doable. Practice on a weekday, when there aren't too many other pleasure boats around. The Bay Bridge does have lots of wind shadows, but is often easier on the T.I. side of the span linking it to S.F.....and check for current. Dare I suggest that some time spent in some of the sailing courses at the Cal Sailing Club (the least expensive way to learn to sail on the Bay) might ease many of your concerns, and give you the chance to meet some interesting and like-minded people!
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Tom: The first thing here is that you do not need any Spinaker in the bay. If you are having a difficult time with the reefing of the main, you don't really know what you are getting in for with a spinaker. I think you may be better off with a larger roll furling jib (about 130%). What you should look at is having your present sail inspected and see if they are blown out. There is NOTHING like a new main sail to make that boat move. There are several good sailmakers in the SF Bay area that should be able to look at your sails and give you an opinion. One mistake that a lot of newbies make is always trying to keep their sail sheeted in toooooo tight. I would look around for some other C'27 owners and see if they may be able to give you some pointers. I have never heard many complaints about these boats being that slow (unless you talk to one of those Cherubini owners that blows by them <haha>). Everytime we sail in SF bay we are looking for the shadow of Angel Island or Treasure Island to get out of the blow.
Tom: The first thing here is that you do not need any Spinaker in the bay. If you are having a difficult time with the reefing of the main, you don't really know what you are getting in for with a spinaker. I think you may be better off with a larger roll furling jib (about 130%). What you should look at is having your present sail inspected and see if they are blown out. There is NOTHING like a new main sail to make that boat move. There are several good sailmakers in the SF Bay area that should be able to look at your sails and give you an opinion. One mistake that a lot of newbies make is always trying to keep their sail sheeted in toooooo tight. I would look around for some other C'27 owners and see if they may be able to give you some pointers. I have never heard many complaints about these boats being that slow (unless you talk to one of those Cherubini owners that blows by them <haha>). Everytime we sail in SF bay we are looking for the shadow of Angel Island or Treasure Island to get out of the blow.
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Justin - O'day Owners' Web
Solo
Tom - I am solo most of time on my Cat25. Once you get the hang of it, its not a big deal. Do you have roller furling? Works a treat when you're by your self. How about lazyjacks? You can rig some up from stuff you can buy at any marine store for about $50. With those you can douse your canvass with ease, and that ability will increase your confidence a great deal. I agree with poster who said lay off the chute for a while. Sound advice. You will get to the point you can fly one solo, but in time. A tiller pilot is a great idea, but expensive. Learn to balance the sails and you will find you can get the boat to hold a general course most of the time. Justin - O'day Owners' Web
Tom - I am solo most of time on my Cat25. Once you get the hang of it, its not a big deal. Do you have roller furling? Works a treat when you're by your self. How about lazyjacks? You can rig some up from stuff you can buy at any marine store for about $50. With those you can douse your canvass with ease, and that ability will increase your confidence a great deal. I agree with poster who said lay off the chute for a while. Sound advice. You will get to the point you can fly one solo, but in time. A tiller pilot is a great idea, but expensive. Learn to balance the sails and you will find you can get the boat to hold a general course most of the time. Justin - O'day Owners' Web
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Brian Jarchow
Lead the lines aft
One thing that will help tremendously is to take the time and expense to lead your lines aft. Mound some blocks at the base of the mast, cleats and a pair of winches at the back of the cabin, and if the halyards aren't long enough replace them. Having access to the halyards from the cockpit will greatly increase your comfort and safety. It's definately worth the expense. Good luck, Brian
One thing that will help tremendously is to take the time and expense to lead your lines aft. Mound some blocks at the base of the mast, cleats and a pair of winches at the back of the cabin, and if the halyards aren't long enough replace them. Having access to the halyards from the cockpit will greatly increase your comfort and safety. It's definately worth the expense. Good luck, Brian
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