I could use a little help, I'm looking to purchase a 23' 1978 Oday sailboat. This boat has no mast or boom. My question, is it difficult and or expensive to find a mast for this boat. Could it be adapted with a universal mast, or am I dreaming. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Tim
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Hi Tim,
It's not going to be difficult but unfortunately a mast, boom, and stays is pricey, but what isn't these days? Give this fellow a call and he can give you an idea about what is needed along with the costs. He has almost everything in stock for this boat. http://www.drmarine.com/ His name is Rudy Nickerson and he knows O'Days. Personally, I think that you're going to love this boat. Rudy told me a couple of years ago that the 23 O'Day was one of the best boats that the O'Day company ever built. I think that going new with spars and rigging, would be a smart choice. You see,---The O'Day Company used about four different spar manufacturers on their boats. My O'Day 222 has spars made by Z-Spar with internal halyards, and a friend of mine with the same model boat, has spars made by Dwyer-Damco with external halyards. O'Day also used Isomat Spars on their boats. I think that most sailboat riggers have the specs on all the O'Days and are able to come up with a mast and spars that will fit your boat and present sails. Good luck!
Joe
Passing wind,
I have several comments on your situation.
A 30 year old hull is an old boat. What condition is the hull in? Without a mast and standing rigging to match that mast, I would expect them to give you the hull and save them the costs of crushing it and taking it to a land fill that will take it.
Any available mast with matching correct rigging should work. Any good boat yard should be able to handle the task. To swag the correct fittings to the correct length wire requires the correct equipment and experience for it to be safe.
Used mast are around. It does not have to be one made for O'Day. It does not have to be exact length, just close. The standing rigging, i.e., the wires, will be the hardest part. That will require taking boat and mast to qualified rigger.
If the local yards do not have acceptable mast, try ebay or used boat salvage places. We recently had a post about a place in Rhode Island that would be good to check out and there are several places in Florida. Look here to begin:
http://www.goodoldboat.com/resources_for_sailors/consignment_stores.php
But first check all local yards, especially yards that routinely send dead boats to dumps. They usually strip mast, boom and other hardware off and put it in the back of the yard.
The Tabernacles will probably not match so, you will have to match a tabernacle to the mast and install on cabin top. Any good yard can do that, just takes dollars.
Speaking of dollars, you might spend more doing the above than a used boat will all the parts might cost. Have you checked the boats for sale on this web site?
Sailing in your area, there are a number of other brand 22 foot boats. You might find one for sale with all the necessary parts.
However, if the hull you are looking at is in generall good shape with a trailer, it might be worth bringing back to life. There are many of us on this forum who have done so.
Generic used sails of approximately correct dimensions will also work. You do not have to have exact matches.
Keep us informed.
Ed K
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I have several comments on your situation.
A 30 year old hull is an old boat. What condition is the hull in? Without a mast and standing rigging to match that mast, I would expect them to give you the hull and save them the costs of crushing it and taking it to a land fill that will take it.
Any available mast with matching correct rigging should work. Any good boat yard should be able to handle the task. To swag the correct fittings to the correct length wire requires the correct equipment and experience for it to be safe.
Used mast are around. It does not have to be one made for O'Day. It does not have to be exact length, just close. The standing rigging, i.e., the wires, will be the hardest part. That will require taking boat and mast to qualified rigger.
If the local yards do not have acceptable mast, try ebay or used boat salvage places. We recently had a post about a place in Rhode Island that would be good to check out and there are several places in Florida. Look here to begin:
http://www.goodoldboat.com/resources_for_sailors/consignment_stores.php
But first check all local yards, especially yards that routinely send dead boats to dumps. They usually strip mast, boom and other hardware off and put it in the back of the yard.
The Tabernacles will probably not match so, you will have to match a tabernacle to the mast and install on cabin top. Any good yard can do that, just takes dollars.
Speaking of dollars, you might spend more doing the above than a used boat will all the parts might cost. Have you checked the boats for sale on this web site?
Sailing in your area, there are a number of other brand 22 foot boats. You might find one for sale with all the necessary parts.
However, if the hull you are looking at is in generall good shape with a trailer, it might be worth bringing back to life. There are many of us on this forum who have done so.
Generic used sails of approximately correct dimensions will also work. You do not have to have exact matches.
Keep us informed.
Ed K
26
South Carolina
Pass: my '79 Oday 23 has Kenyon spars. I agree that Rudy at D&R should be your first call. However, you can get additional info direct from Kenyon too. Here is their website and contact info.
http://www.rigrite.com/spars/kenyon_spars/KENYON.html
The most economical option is to find a used mast and boom that is close in dimension to the original. Chances are that you will have to spring for new rigging (what are the odds that any rigging already attached to the mast will fit your boat? Not good). That brings up another concern with used masts: compatibility of rigging. Many small boats have masts with different rigging configurations. The Oday 23 Mk II (your boat) has only two chainplates per side: one for the upper shrouds, and one for the lower. A used mast you find may have fittings and sections (wall thickness) designed for more rigging per side (i.e., two sets of lower shrouds, and one set of upper shrouds) than the Oday can accomodate. Be alert for this. If the mast does not have the support it needs, it may break when you need it most.
I can tell you that I love my Oday 23; however, there are a lot of them out there, as there are also many similar boats of equal or better quality. I would never have bought my boat if it didn't have a mast in good condition. There are just too many other options out there to make it worthwhile.
http://www.rigrite.com/spars/kenyon_spars/KENYON.html
The most economical option is to find a used mast and boom that is close in dimension to the original. Chances are that you will have to spring for new rigging (what are the odds that any rigging already attached to the mast will fit your boat? Not good). That brings up another concern with used masts: compatibility of rigging. Many small boats have masts with different rigging configurations. The Oday 23 Mk II (your boat) has only two chainplates per side: one for the upper shrouds, and one for the lower. A used mast you find may have fittings and sections (wall thickness) designed for more rigging per side (i.e., two sets of lower shrouds, and one set of upper shrouds) than the Oday can accomodate. Be alert for this. If the mast does not have the support it needs, it may break when you need it most.
I can tell you that I love my Oday 23; however, there are a lot of them out there, as there are also many similar boats of equal or better quality. I would never have bought my boat if it didn't have a mast in good condition. There are just too many other options out there to make it worthwhile.
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