Oday 26 space inside questions

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ptsbug

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Aug 14, 2006
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Paceship PY23 keel c/b North Branch, MN
I am looking at purchasing Paceship PY26, but suddenly found myself admiring the Oday 26.
We currently sail a Paceship PY23 and would prefer a boat with just as big berths if not bigger.
I am 6'3 and normally use the v-berth along with the admiral for overnight arrangments allowing our twin teenage kids an option to berth in either side berth.
I am unable to locate a floorplan scematic showing the layout of a 1985 Oday 26 so can someone explain what the interior is like.
Could a tall person sleep in the v-berth with another person?
Is the head enclosed, or part of the v-berth like most 26 foot boats?
How big is the cockpit? How many people could comfortably sit in the cockpit?
We anchor out often and prefer to have the option to trailer when we get the crazy idea to go sailing in the North Channel or Door County, Wisconsin.
Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
 

BruceC

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Oct 6, 2008
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Oday 26 So. Orleans
I own a 1985 O'Day 26 diesel and while I do like the boat very much I can confidently state that at 6'3" you would not be comfortable utilizing the V-berth for sleeping. The berth is fine for youngsters, but not for adults. As for the remainer of cabin there are two settee berths and what is referred to as a port quarter berth. The single starboard berth would be suitable for an individual around 5' 8" whereas at 6'3", you would have no problem being comfortable using the port berth (also opens to a double berth with sliding platform). The port quarter berth would be suitable for a youngster if he or she did not mind the close quarter feeling. I usually use the V-berth and/or port quarter berth for storage. The head has a hinged wooden door separating the head from the main cabin area; head is open to V-berth. You could modify area and separate head from V-berth using folding door or heavy drape of some type. As for the cockpit, six people could sit comfortable and eight if necessary. Yes, the O'Day 26 is billed as a trailerable boat but I do not believe you would want to trailer this boat any great distance and it would require a significant towing vehicle. Ok if you want to relocate for the season, but not to haul from location to location during sailing season.
 

ptsbug

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Aug 14, 2006
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Paceship PY23 keel c/b North Branch, MN
Good to know! Would that Port berth open up to occomodate 2 adults?
I can easily modify a missing door for v-berth privacy, that is one thing I really like about our PY23, I installed a bulkhead between the head and the v-berth so your pillow cant fall onto or near the head.
I'm afraid if my two boys get to be 6'3" or larger I'll nedd a bigger boat :)
 

BruceC

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Oct 6, 2008
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Oday 26 So. Orleans
Yes, the port berth (that opens under hinged table secured against bulkhead) can easily be used by two adults. While I say the V-berth is open to head, the berth extends up against a port and starboard bulkhead so there is no way pillows would fall onto or near head itself. Sounds like you made this modification to your existing boat. The bulkheads leave an opening to V-berth that could be blocked for privacy. There is a stainless steel sink on starboard side across from head with storage area behind sink and cabinet beneath enclosed by two doors; small hanging locker behind head. If your two boys reach 6'3" you will definitely require a larger boat!
 
Dec 8, 2006
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Oday 26 Starr, SC
Pitsbug - O'26

I am looking at purchasing Paceship PY26, but suddenly found myself admiring the Oday 26.
We currently sail a Paceship PY23 and would prefer a boat with just as big berths if not bigger.
I am 6'3 and normally use the v-berth along with the admiral for overnight arrangments allowing our twin teenage kids an option to berth in either side berth.
I am unable to locate a floorplan scematic showing the layout of a 1985 Oday 26 so can someone explain what the interior is like.
Could a tall person sleep in the v-berth with another person?
Is the head enclosed, or part of the v-berth like most 26 foot boats?
How big is the cockpit? How many people could comfortably sit in the cockpit?
We anchor out often and prefer to have the option to trailer when we get the crazy idea to go sailing in the North Channel or Door County, Wisconsin.
Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
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Pitsbug,

Not all O'Day 26's are the same.

I have a 85 O26 and it has a folding door between head area and V-beth. The V-berth has a fill in cushion to complete the area as typical in many sailboats' V berths. If the boat you are looking at is missing that, it would be easy to fabricate. When it is not used it is the cushion foreward against the small acess hole under the chain locker.

The port berth when the slild out is used to make double allows longer person to sleep against hull side. I recommend adding a support midway of length of pull out. When I acquired my 26 the slide out was damaged in several places. I restored and reinforced and it works fine.

Now keep in mind that the outboard 26 has a quarter berth on the port side that extends back to the gas tank locker. So if you do not use the quarter berth for a small person, a 7 foot person could easily use port berth.

When asking questions about the 26 remember that it evolved from the 25. Rudy calls it the same boat. It is only 10 inches longer. There have been modifications to the 25 by some owners to have a pull out double berth. Somewhere in the last several years, somebody posted pictures of such modification.

So if you have the aptitude, all sorts of modifications can be done to the 26 and even 25. The next boats up the food chain are not trailable easily, but any boat can be trailered. Boats above 8'6' to 10' just require permits and wide load signs, while those wider require the fore and aft warning cars.

There are not many 26's out there. Only about 86 were made before O'Day went belly up. The hull design while based on the 25 was modified to fix weather helm and rudder hitting bottom before keel. Significant modifications for sailing.

The interior of the 26 is open as compared with many other boats in the 25 to 30 foot range. This is because it is not a heavy boat. It is a lake boat and not a boat to cross oceans. It handles winds up to 25 easily, maybe more if you are of the risky type. The hull shape is good for sailing.

Standing headroom is about 5'8" with top closed. Even at that it is easy to hit your head on bulkheads.

The 26 only came in centerboard version, whereas there are fin keel 25's around. It is centerboard and not swing keel. There is nothing made like it today. The keel on the 26 is slightly longer than the 25 but that is hard to prove. It's keel is several inches deeper than the 25 to reduce weather helm and is well balanced as result.

Fair Zyphers,
Ed K
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billh

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Jun 9, 2009
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Hunter 28.5 Inland NY
I will agree with Bruce on the inside issue no doubt there. I am 6' and the only option for me is the port berth. V berth too short and Starboard berth too short. post side has a quarter berth behind it so plenty of length there. Use the pull out and my spouse and I sleep head to foot and we sleep together there quite well.

I did add a slide out to the Starboard side though so it slides out and I can hang my feet into the head area. Or a boom tent serves well and I sleep outside in the cockpit or on the deck under the tent.

However, I don't agree with the trailering issue. I trailer mine quite a bit. Too and from various lakes. So far no issue with trailering whatsoever. Have it down pretty pat.

Took the 6x6 frame it was sitting on, on the ground and mounted that to a tandem axle trailer. Cut open the back bunk and the keel slips through nicely float her right on and off. So far all the ramps I have been on do the job well. NYS has done a pretty good job with it's public ramps. cant believe I gave props to NYS for anything!

Stepping the mast takes two people unhook headstay and drop the mast on a crutch then unpin the mast and slid back and set on the rails Strap it all down with some shrink wrap and remove the outboard and the rudder and off you go. The mast is very light well under 100 lbs so stepping is not an issue. I do not have a furler so that helps.

Get to the new lake, pop the rudder back on drop the outboard back on, cut away the shrink wrap. Move mast forward and up on a crutch and pin it. raise the mast, attach headstay and second pin tabernacle and all set.

I leave the mainsail on the boom and simply attach the boom at the gooseneck and slid the slugs back in the groove. If I dont have a helper I seem to always attrack enough attention and grab a bystander to raise the mast. To date no problems getting people up there to assist and so forth. One day I may look back and wonder about liability though but typically I have a brother helping me, only now and again a bystander. I am pushing 50, so as they say "if I can do it so can you"

Seriously, I trailer quite often three four times a year and have no plans on stopping. I feel the 26 has enough interior space and handles well. As for trailering, a good vehicle is a must of course.

She weighs in at 4800 bare, so add the equipment and you have a decent load. Add trailer weight and you are pushing 7,000 lbs. However I tow her with a GMC 8 cylinder pickup and have power to spare. Has the full tow package transmission cooler and electric braking. but, so you know I can tow her no problem without trailer brakes and have had no issue with that as well. I am safe, I am not some off the wall crazy person without regard to safety here.

Once you strap the boat down on the trailer and strap the mast it tows very well. it is alot of weight so I have new rubber and repack the bearings often. I have replaced the bearings as well to be safe as the trailer was old. they do not heat up at all. The keel is well balanced over the axles. Enough weight on the hitch to keep her from swaying and so forth.

That's my take on trailering the O'day 26. I have an 85 and am pleased for the most part. Trying to race her is another matter! Light wind easy 2nd place, heavy air forget it :)

If you plan well, and prepare well, and take safety as serious as it is you will do well.

So far my furthermost tow point has been 90 miles one way. However next year I am planning a run to the coast with her. or a sail down the Hudson river and a 150 mile return trip via auto. Maybe both. Cape Cod is a good 4 hour drive by car, and next year I might tow her out and see about sailing to Nantucket or Maratha's vineyard. I hear it is a nice sail.

I live near the Hudson but it will take many days to sail down to NYC, so i would think once there I haul her out then drive her back home. Only have so much vacation time.

This fall and winter I am adding a gin pole mast raising system that I can work if I am alone. or with my spouse as she is not able to help step the mast but enjoys light sailing. I need a way to not count on bystanders but be able to step as a one man show.

Right now with one helper I can haul her out of the lake and have her prepped for the road in roughly 30 min. thats it, due to my assistant always helping me so we have a rythem. If a bystander add at least 20 min, and probably more like 30. You have to do it all alone and you have to work with them to ensure they are safe and you are safe and go slower.

Then when launching another 30 min to have her in the water ready to sail, well in the water, another 30 to finish getting her rigged truth be told.

As I say to date all is well. I enjoy hauling her to different lakes use it as a day sailor but the benefits of a longer range boat.

With our docks closing from the club soon, but October being a good sailing month, when I have to take her off the docks I am moving her to another body of water at a mooring for the month, then in November bring her home. I have no qualms about hauling her out and moving on the fly like that.

I hope you take this as it is. It is an enjoyable boat to trailer and believe it or not easier than the 23' I had. the 23' was not an O'Day. Don't be afraid to trailer her if you are comfortable with that idea. takes nerves of steel to haul her I will admit. My brother pretends he isnt towing anything and seems to forget she is behind us. I watched the entire rig bounce in the air one time and thought I was having a heart attack! He hit the bump so hard all wheels left the road on the trailer, I kid you not. I strap the boat to the trailer so the entire unit went up. I am sure he stole a few years from me that day. Point being she tows so well, you can forget it is there. More so when you are not the owner I think :)

I do hope this eases your thinking on that issue. Others may have similar thoughts or I might be out there on what I am doing, not sure. I have no comparison, I dont know any who do move a boat this size this often.

Happy sailing out there.


I am looking at purchasing Paceship PY26, but suddenly found myself admiring the Oday 26.
We currently sail a Paceship PY23 and would prefer a boat with just as big berths if not bigger.
I am 6'3 and normally use the v-berth along with the admiral for overnight arrangments allowing our twin teenage kids an option to berth in either side berth.
I am unable to locate a floorplan scematic showing the layout of a 1985 Oday 26 so can someone explain what the interior is like.
Could a tall person sleep in the v-berth with another person?
Is the head enclosed, or part of the v-berth like most 26 foot boats?
How big is the cockpit? How many people could comfortably sit in the cockpit?
We anchor out often and prefer to have the option to trailer when we get the crazy idea to go sailing in the North Channel or Door County, Wisconsin.
Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
 
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