I posted photos of some of the major projects I completed on Elysium, a 1978 22' shoal draft O'Day. I hope some of you find the pictures helpful or at least interesting. I would appreciate any comments or questions. Jim
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Nice work, Jim,
Looks like you did great work--I especially like the Starboard used for the countertop. What thickness did you use: 1/2" or 3/4"? I'm also really curious about your electrical panel. Was it originally mounted way up on that cabin wall/bulkhead? My 22 is a 1975 and the electrical panel is actually mounted in the cabinet under the hinged countertop (with battery in the cabinet below). I really hate that it's so close to the sink and faucet. Where's your battery(ies) located? Do you have easy access to the back/rear of the electrical panel on your boat? It looks like--from your photos of the transom re-core--that there is a glassed in wall underneath the cockpit floor all the way down to the hull/floor. Is that really what I'm seeing? My boat is open completely under the cockpit floor from port to starboard. What's that large hole in your transom between your motor mount and the centerline where the rudder mounts--is it a thru-hull for bilge hose discharge or is it used for something else (like pass through for fuel line)? Sorry for the barrage of questions but I'm voracious for 22 information. I've got no reference for my boat to gauge its present state compared to original factory condition. I'm eager to restore it and refurbish it but also want to make sure I'm not reinventing a few wheels that have already been turning well. Thanks immensely for posting the great photos of your projects. I'm intending to document most of my major projects/improvements and post the photos here as I do them, too. Hope you will keep us posted on other projects as they occur. Rich in New Orleans s/v Time Bandit
Looks like you did great work--I especially like the Starboard used for the countertop. What thickness did you use: 1/2" or 3/4"? I'm also really curious about your electrical panel. Was it originally mounted way up on that cabin wall/bulkhead? My 22 is a 1975 and the electrical panel is actually mounted in the cabinet under the hinged countertop (with battery in the cabinet below). I really hate that it's so close to the sink and faucet. Where's your battery(ies) located? Do you have easy access to the back/rear of the electrical panel on your boat? It looks like--from your photos of the transom re-core--that there is a glassed in wall underneath the cockpit floor all the way down to the hull/floor. Is that really what I'm seeing? My boat is open completely under the cockpit floor from port to starboard. What's that large hole in your transom between your motor mount and the centerline where the rudder mounts--is it a thru-hull for bilge hose discharge or is it used for something else (like pass through for fuel line)? Sorry for the barrage of questions but I'm voracious for 22 information. I've got no reference for my boat to gauge its present state compared to original factory condition. I'm eager to restore it and refurbish it but also want to make sure I'm not reinventing a few wheels that have already been turning well. Thanks immensely for posting the great photos of your projects. I'm intending to document most of my major projects/improvements and post the photos here as I do them, too. Hope you will keep us posted on other projects as they occur. Rich in New Orleans s/v Time Bandit
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Hey Rich, glad you liked the photos. Lets see if I can answer those questions. I ordered 3/4 starboard for the countertop but 1/2 would of worked out fine. The electrical panel was located in the same spot and I think it was origional. The wires to the lights were definately origional. My boat was built in 1978 and they may have made changes, maybe some of the others could verify it. BTW the panel I installed is one made from seadog and I had to modify the back of the cig plug because there not enough space there. The panel is screwed in with four sheet srews and comes off easily. My battery is located on what used to be a shelf all the way forward in the starboard locker. The plywood shelf has rotted away and is on the top of my to do list when warmer weather gets here. That wall you notice between the copit floor and the bottom of the hull is a piece of plywood that is just tabed in with fiberglass along the top and bottom. I dont know if you can tell in the picture but the plywoods layers have completly delaminated. Others have ripped this plywood out. There are alot of pieces of foam behind it under the cotpit. I have trouble believing its enough to provide positive flotation like O'Day claimed. The hole is for the bilge pump and you can see the hose in the picture. Talking of thru hulls and hoses, alot of people including me have had the connection between the cotpit drain and its thru hull come apart causing rainwater to fill the bilge. You might want to check yours if you havent already. Any other questions just let me know. Jim
Hey Rich, glad you liked the photos. Lets see if I can answer those questions. I ordered 3/4 starboard for the countertop but 1/2 would of worked out fine. The electrical panel was located in the same spot and I think it was origional. The wires to the lights were definately origional. My boat was built in 1978 and they may have made changes, maybe some of the others could verify it. BTW the panel I installed is one made from seadog and I had to modify the back of the cig plug because there not enough space there. The panel is screwed in with four sheet srews and comes off easily. My battery is located on what used to be a shelf all the way forward in the starboard locker. The plywood shelf has rotted away and is on the top of my to do list when warmer weather gets here. That wall you notice between the copit floor and the bottom of the hull is a piece of plywood that is just tabed in with fiberglass along the top and bottom. I dont know if you can tell in the picture but the plywoods layers have completly delaminated. Others have ripped this plywood out. There are alot of pieces of foam behind it under the cotpit. I have trouble believing its enough to provide positive flotation like O'Day claimed. The hole is for the bilge pump and you can see the hose in the picture. Talking of thru hulls and hoses, alot of people including me have had the connection between the cotpit drain and its thru hull come apart causing rainwater to fill the bilge. You might want to check yours if you havent already. Any other questions just let me know. Jim
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Josh
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I have a 79 and my electrical panel WAS on the starboard side like yours. I was going to place a radio there, same one you have as a matter of fact, and a new panel. My compass is just above and right behind the panel. I thought about moving the compass, but then decided it would be easier to move then panel to the other side, then to deal with sealing the hole created by moving the compass. The bulkhead turned out to have about a half inch less space inside it on the port side. It seems that the fiberglass is thicker on that side. Now I have to cut some boards so that the switch panels can stand off from the bulkhead. This won't be too bad though, as it will put a nice teak frame around the switch panels. I will probably bevel the edge on it and stain it up to look nice. I just didn't want that much electrical interference with the compass. If I would have thought about it, I probably would have moved it down to the cabinet like Rich has on his earlier model. Not the best place, but the further it is from the compass the better. I'm also moving my batteries from the starboard cockpit box to under the porte sette in the cabin. I purchased a twelve gallon tank to place into the starboard cockpit area, and moved the batteries port to compensate the weight. Much of my wall inside the starbord cockpit area has rotted as well. The previous owner glassed in some new plywood, but now I wish he hadn't. The reason I think it rots is because the water doesn't leave the area under the cockpit to get to the bilge. My cockpit drain did break, and I had to replace it. I put a new brass thruhull so I shouldn't have that problem again. Well, until the other one breaks. This allowed water to pool and rot out the wood. I'd like to get behind the glassed in wall to create a drain to the bilge. In the bilge I'm placing two 1250 gph pumps, and hopefully once everything drains to this area I won't have to worry about any water building up. I'm getting new cushions made, and after looking at your pictures, I can see that mine are original. The apolstry is the exact same. Among other things to do is to replace the hoses for the water as they are moldy, and the water tank for the same reason. It needs lots of work because it had a lot of neglect. The boat was rarely used though, so most of the rigging and equipment is in good shape. Eventually I'll get a digital camera and get some pictures up here...probably after everything is done! Josh
I have a 79 and my electrical panel WAS on the starboard side like yours. I was going to place a radio there, same one you have as a matter of fact, and a new panel. My compass is just above and right behind the panel. I thought about moving the compass, but then decided it would be easier to move then panel to the other side, then to deal with sealing the hole created by moving the compass. The bulkhead turned out to have about a half inch less space inside it on the port side. It seems that the fiberglass is thicker on that side. Now I have to cut some boards so that the switch panels can stand off from the bulkhead. This won't be too bad though, as it will put a nice teak frame around the switch panels. I will probably bevel the edge on it and stain it up to look nice. I just didn't want that much electrical interference with the compass. If I would have thought about it, I probably would have moved it down to the cabinet like Rich has on his earlier model. Not the best place, but the further it is from the compass the better. I'm also moving my batteries from the starboard cockpit box to under the porte sette in the cabin. I purchased a twelve gallon tank to place into the starboard cockpit area, and moved the batteries port to compensate the weight. Much of my wall inside the starbord cockpit area has rotted as well. The previous owner glassed in some new plywood, but now I wish he hadn't. The reason I think it rots is because the water doesn't leave the area under the cockpit to get to the bilge. My cockpit drain did break, and I had to replace it. I put a new brass thruhull so I shouldn't have that problem again. Well, until the other one breaks. This allowed water to pool and rot out the wood. I'd like to get behind the glassed in wall to create a drain to the bilge. In the bilge I'm placing two 1250 gph pumps, and hopefully once everything drains to this area I won't have to worry about any water building up. I'm getting new cushions made, and after looking at your pictures, I can see that mine are original. The apolstry is the exact same. Among other things to do is to replace the hoses for the water as they are moldy, and the water tank for the same reason. It needs lots of work because it had a lot of neglect. The boat was rarely used though, so most of the rigging and equipment is in good shape. Eventually I'll get a digital camera and get some pictures up here...probably after everything is done! Josh
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Josh
Diffrent things...
I have a 79 and my electrical panel WAS on the starboard side like yours. I was going to place a radio there, same one you have as a matter of fact, and a new panel. My compass is just above and right behind the panel. I thought about moving the compass, but then decided it would be easier to move then panel to the other side, then to deal with sealing the hole created by moving the compass. The bulkhead turned out to have about a half inch less space inside it on the port side. It seems that the fiberglass is thicker on that side. Now I have to cut some boards so that the switch panels can stand off from the bulkhead. This won't be too bad though, as it will put a nice teak frame around the switch panels. I will probably bevel the edge on it and stain it up to look nice. I just didn't want that much electrical interference with the compass. If I would have thought about it, I probably would have moved it down to the cabinet like Rich has on his earlier model. Not the best place, but the further it is from the compass the better. I'm also moving my batteries from the starboard cockpit box to under the porte sette in the cabin. I purchased a twelve gallon tank to place into the starboard cockpit area, and moved the batteries port to compensate the weight. Much of my wall inside the starbord cockpit area has rotted as well. The previous owner glassed in some new plywood, but now I wish he hadn't. The reason I think it rots is because the water doesn't leave the area under the cockpit to get to the bilge. My cockpit drain did break, and I had to replace it. I put a new brass thruhull so I shouldn't have that problem again. Well, until the other one breaks. This allowed water to pool and rot out the wood. I'd like to get behind the glassed in wall to create a drain to the bilge. In the bilge I'm placing two 1250 gph pumps, and hopefully once everything drains to this area I won't have to worry about any water building up. I'm getting new cushions made, and after looking at your pictures, I can see that mine are original. The apolstry is the exact same. Among other things to do is to replace the hoses for the water as they are moldy, and the water tank for the same reason. It needs lots of work because it had a lot of neglect. The boat was rarely used though, so most of the rigging and equipment is in good shape. Eventually I'll get a digital camera and get some pictures up here...probably after everything is done! Josh
I have a 79 and my electrical panel WAS on the starboard side like yours. I was going to place a radio there, same one you have as a matter of fact, and a new panel. My compass is just above and right behind the panel. I thought about moving the compass, but then decided it would be easier to move then panel to the other side, then to deal with sealing the hole created by moving the compass. The bulkhead turned out to have about a half inch less space inside it on the port side. It seems that the fiberglass is thicker on that side. Now I have to cut some boards so that the switch panels can stand off from the bulkhead. This won't be too bad though, as it will put a nice teak frame around the switch panels. I will probably bevel the edge on it and stain it up to look nice. I just didn't want that much electrical interference with the compass. If I would have thought about it, I probably would have moved it down to the cabinet like Rich has on his earlier model. Not the best place, but the further it is from the compass the better. I'm also moving my batteries from the starboard cockpit box to under the porte sette in the cabin. I purchased a twelve gallon tank to place into the starboard cockpit area, and moved the batteries port to compensate the weight. Much of my wall inside the starbord cockpit area has rotted as well. The previous owner glassed in some new plywood, but now I wish he hadn't. The reason I think it rots is because the water doesn't leave the area under the cockpit to get to the bilge. My cockpit drain did break, and I had to replace it. I put a new brass thruhull so I shouldn't have that problem again. Well, until the other one breaks. This allowed water to pool and rot out the wood. I'd like to get behind the glassed in wall to create a drain to the bilge. In the bilge I'm placing two 1250 gph pumps, and hopefully once everything drains to this area I won't have to worry about any water building up. I'm getting new cushions made, and after looking at your pictures, I can see that mine are original. The apolstry is the exact same. Among other things to do is to replace the hoses for the water as they are moldy, and the water tank for the same reason. It needs lots of work because it had a lot of neglect. The boat was rarely used though, so most of the rigging and equipment is in good shape. Eventually I'll get a digital camera and get some pictures up here...probably after everything is done! Josh
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Fuel Tank Placing...
I don't know why I keep thinking that fuel tank is going into that storage space. I did purchase it for that, but on thinking about fuel fumes and the trouble a venting fan would cause, I decided to build a box inside the cockpit for it as I have seen another do. Check the related link if you are interested in what I am talking about. Also, wouldn't this have been better under the general interest forum (ask an oday owner)? The 22 isn't really a 'bigger boat' is it? Josh
I don't know why I keep thinking that fuel tank is going into that storage space. I did purchase it for that, but on thinking about fuel fumes and the trouble a venting fan would cause, I decided to build a box inside the cockpit for it as I have seen another do. Check the related link if you are interested in what I am talking about. Also, wouldn't this have been better under the general interest forum (ask an oday owner)? The 22 isn't really a 'bigger boat' is it? Josh
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