Hello folks...I have an Oday 192 and consider it an ideal trailer sailer....the headsail is a safety concern. The furler is a total failure...anything more than 10 knots it becomes useless....should i consider a larger jib and hank on the headstay or go all the way and put a CDI furler with a new sail on the headstay and throw out the OEM furler and sail????..... I may just put hanks on the existing sailand hank it on the front stay and use a downhaul to douse it....I am to big a guy to go forward on a 19 ft pitching sailboat to clear a tangled fouled up furling jib that is hung up on a totally inadequate system....Please help, regards
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192 headsails and furler
Compared to a furler/reefer like a CDI the wire-luff furlers are something of a disappointment. The basic limitation is that they only rotate the bottom of the sail so if there is load on the sail the top doesn't follow and the mess ensues. What I can tell you from my experience is that if you turn downwind and put the jib in the wind shadow of the main the jib will furl reliably under all conditions. Most folks I know who have CDIs are pretty happy with them. If there is a disadvantage I think it would be the bit of extra complication during rigging and having to secure the furler for trailering. A CDI and a new sail is a good-size expenditure so it might be worth trying the hanks and the downhaul first. Sailrite sells some Ronstan hanks that clamp on around the wire luff with screws - you could probably do the jib modification yourself.
Compared to a furler/reefer like a CDI the wire-luff furlers are something of a disappointment. The basic limitation is that they only rotate the bottom of the sail so if there is load on the sail the top doesn't follow and the mess ensues. What I can tell you from my experience is that if you turn downwind and put the jib in the wind shadow of the main the jib will furl reliably under all conditions. Most folks I know who have CDIs are pretty happy with them. If there is a disadvantage I think it would be the bit of extra complication during rigging and having to secure the furler for trailering. A CDI and a new sail is a good-size expenditure so it might be worth trying the hanks and the downhaul first. Sailrite sells some Ronstan hanks that clamp on around the wire luff with screws - you could probably do the jib modification yourself.
Head sail options
Ahoy there, Frank! If you're going to trailer this boat, then go for the conventional hank on Gennie. Snaps are easier than Piston hanks. It will be faster to rig for trailer sailing. But, if you have a mooring or slip and you're leaving your boat in the water for the season, I'd go with the CDI Roller Reefing Furler without the ball bearings. I had reefing points on my Gennie, and I found it to be a pain. I'd have been better off buying a used Jib instead of messing around with the Gennie. It was probably OK for Lynn and Larry Pardey on their 24 Cutter, but I don't make ocean cruises to distant continents. So if I had to do it over again, I'd just carry a Jib sail on my boat as well as the Gennie. Smooth Sailing! Joe
Ahoy there, Frank! If you're going to trailer this boat, then go for the conventional hank on Gennie. Snaps are easier than Piston hanks. It will be faster to rig for trailer sailing. But, if you have a mooring or slip and you're leaving your boat in the water for the season, I'd go with the CDI Roller Reefing Furler without the ball bearings. I had reefing points on my Gennie, and I found it to be a pain. I'd have been better off buying a used Jib instead of messing around with the Gennie. It was probably OK for Lynn and Larry Pardey on their 24 Cutter, but I don't make ocean cruises to distant continents. So if I had to do it over again, I'd just carry a Jib sail on my boat as well as the Gennie. Smooth Sailing! Joe
192 Head Sail
I wrote a long replay a few days ago and it dissapeared when I tried to post it. My previous owner of my 1986 O'Day 192 put a CDI furler on with a large head sail. The sail may be too big. I have a track for cars for the head sail on top of the cabin (not all 192s have them). When I try to be close hauled, the clew hits the car at its furthest aft position before I have the sheet as hard as desired. Recently, the "down haul" conection to the head sail broke and I had to rig something to keep the luft taught. the whole sail isnowtoo far down with little chance for adjustment with out demasting. I went to the CDI web site to find that my version is out dated and that they wan a few hundred dollars to update me. So if you buy used make sure that you have the newer version. MZ
I wrote a long replay a few days ago and it dissapeared when I tried to post it. My previous owner of my 1986 O'Day 192 put a CDI furler on with a large head sail. The sail may be too big. I have a track for cars for the head sail on top of the cabin (not all 192s have them). When I try to be close hauled, the clew hits the car at its furthest aft position before I have the sheet as hard as desired. Recently, the "down haul" conection to the head sail broke and I had to rig something to keep the luft taught. the whole sail isnowtoo far down with little chance for adjustment with out demasting. I went to the CDI web site to find that my version is out dated and that they wan a few hundred dollars to update me. So if you buy used make sure that you have the newer version. MZ
Genoa on 192
The turning blocks for the 135 on my 192 are attached to short lines that are clipped to the lifeline stanchions at the forward end of the cockpit. The genoa sheets actually make their turn behind the winches on the cabin top. The sheets on my 90 and my 110 are led through the forward blocks on the cabin top. No tracks on my boat unfortunately.
The turning blocks for the 135 on my 192 are attached to short lines that are clipped to the lifeline stanchions at the forward end of the cockpit. The genoa sheets actually make their turn behind the winches on the cabin top. The sheets on my 90 and my 110 are led through the forward blocks on the cabin top. No tracks on my boat unfortunately.
CDI Furler Recommended
Frank, I'm in nearby Tuckerton, NJ and recently (spring 2006) replaced the old furler on my Oday 192 with a CDI furler and 130 % jib from Linthicum Sailmakers in Runemeade, NJ. I recommend you talk to Brad (the owner). He's very knowledgeable about the furler and sailing along the NJ coast. All he'll need to make it up is your headstay. I had it made over the winter and installed it myself in the spring. You do have to take the mast down, but other than that it was a good change. BTW, I had to take the jib halyard and fitting off of the front of the mast because it interferred with the top fitting on the furler. I'm looking at re-installing the jib halyard again above the headstay fitting out of the way of the furler. It is handy to have the jib halyard when raising and lowering the mast. For the time being I've been leaving the boat in the water in the summer and on a trailer (with the mast up)at the marina during the winter. With almost 2 seasons now on the furler, I've had no problems even in 15 - 20 kt. winds. It's worked flawlessly every time I've used it. I highly recommend it. I couldn't beat Brad's price and I think he has a winter discount (was 15%) if you order now for spring delivery. Let me know if you want to come and look at the installation. You can also get the complete installation and operating instructions at the CDI website. Google it.
Frank, I'm in nearby Tuckerton, NJ and recently (spring 2006) replaced the old furler on my Oday 192 with a CDI furler and 130 % jib from Linthicum Sailmakers in Runemeade, NJ. I recommend you talk to Brad (the owner). He's very knowledgeable about the furler and sailing along the NJ coast. All he'll need to make it up is your headstay. I had it made over the winter and installed it myself in the spring. You do have to take the mast down, but other than that it was a good change. BTW, I had to take the jib halyard and fitting off of the front of the mast because it interferred with the top fitting on the furler. I'm looking at re-installing the jib halyard again above the headstay fitting out of the way of the furler. It is handy to have the jib halyard when raising and lowering the mast. For the time being I've been leaving the boat in the water in the summer and on a trailer (with the mast up)at the marina during the winter. With almost 2 seasons now on the furler, I've had no problems even in 15 - 20 kt. winds. It's worked flawlessly every time I've used it. I highly recommend it. I couldn't beat Brad's price and I think he has a winter discount (was 15%) if you order now for spring delivery. Let me know if you want to come and look at the installation. You can also get the complete installation and operating instructions at the CDI website. Google it.
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