On a recent sail, I was attempting to reef my recently purchased 1984 ODay 28. I mistakenly released the lever at the front of the boom that locks the outhaul. After recovering from several large waves, I noticed that the sail wasn't attached at the front of the foot. I think it's called the tack. The previous owner helped me rig the sail, and I don't recall how the sail attached to the front of the boom. I have been sailing by attaching the sail grommet (tack) to the "ramshorn", which I think is solely used when reefing. On my previous boat, an H-23, the tack was attached utilizing a pin through a u-shaped fitting on the boom. Can anyone offer any advice as to what I lost? Maybe someone with a similar boat can post a pic of where their sail tack attaches to the front of the boom. Thanks in advance Jerry
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Jerry, Check back tomorrow or Sunday and I will post a picture. My 1980 model has a "rams horn" like you describe, on the gooseneck and a pin that goes through the gooseneck to hold the tack. I suspect you're missing this pin, assuming we are rigged the same. However, I am not sure of the lever on the outhaul. My outhaul cleats to the boom, so we may have different setups. Do you know what type of spar you have? I have a Kenyon setup, but some boats came with Isomat spars. The Kenyon has a bolt on spinnaker track, the Isomat has an integral track. One great place to check is www.rigrite.com. They supply parts for both Isomat and Kenyon systems, have a lot of great pctures, and can help you identify the type of spar and the parts you need. Check them out as well. I'm on the hard right now so I need to drive to the marina to winterize. Will take a couple of pics and post when I get back. Bob s/v Simple Dreams Chicago
Jerry, Check back tomorrow or Sunday and I will post a picture. My 1980 model has a "rams horn" like you describe, on the gooseneck and a pin that goes through the gooseneck to hold the tack. I suspect you're missing this pin, assuming we are rigged the same. However, I am not sure of the lever on the outhaul. My outhaul cleats to the boom, so we may have different setups. Do you know what type of spar you have? I have a Kenyon setup, but some boats came with Isomat spars. The Kenyon has a bolt on spinnaker track, the Isomat has an integral track. One great place to check is www.rigrite.com. They supply parts for both Isomat and Kenyon systems, have a lot of great pctures, and can help you identify the type of spar and the parts you need. Check them out as well. I'm on the hard right now so I need to drive to the marina to winterize. Will take a couple of pics and post when I get back. Bob s/v Simple Dreams Chicago
Sail to boom attachment
Jerry- I too sail an O'day 28 and the attachment you describe sort of baffles me. I have a pin and cotter ring which attaches the tack to the front of the boom. The pin goes through a fitting on the rams horn and secures the sail both laterally and vertically. The outhaul is cleated off on the bottom of the boom with a rope to wire connection to the clew through the boom. My spar is a kenyon spar and my boat is an '80 model. If all else fails you may be able to fabricate a fitting which straddles the boom and attach the tack with a pin and cotter ring set up. Good luck and perhaps Bob's photos will reveal a fix. Mike S/B Pitterpat Lake Huron
Jerry- I too sail an O'day 28 and the attachment you describe sort of baffles me. I have a pin and cotter ring which attaches the tack to the front of the boom. The pin goes through a fitting on the rams horn and secures the sail both laterally and vertically. The outhaul is cleated off on the bottom of the boom with a rope to wire connection to the clew through the boom. My spar is a kenyon spar and my boat is an '80 model. If all else fails you may be able to fabricate a fitting which straddles the boom and attach the tack with a pin and cotter ring set up. Good luck and perhaps Bob's photos will reveal a fix. Mike S/B Pitterpat Lake Huron
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Jerry - Here is the photo of the Kenyon arrangement. You can see the pin with the ring in the upper right of the photo. This secures the tack, and it sounds like Mike and I have the same arrangement. One thing I noticed on the rigrite site is that I am missing the cam cleats on either side of the boom that cleat off the reefing lines...perhaps this is the lever you are refering too, and someone ran the outhaul through one of these cleats?? At any rate, looks like I found another project for this winter - namely, replacing the cam cleats for the reefing lines. Jerry, good luck with your quest. Hope the picture helps. Bob s/v Simple Dreams Chicago
Jerry - Here is the photo of the Kenyon arrangement. You can see the pin with the ring in the upper right of the photo. This secures the tack, and it sounds like Mike and I have the same arrangement. One thing I noticed on the rigrite site is that I am missing the cam cleats on either side of the boom that cleat off the reefing lines...perhaps this is the lever you are refering too, and someone ran the outhaul through one of these cleats?? At any rate, looks like I found another project for this winter - namely, replacing the cam cleats for the reefing lines. Jerry, good luck with your quest. Hope the picture helps. Bob s/v Simple Dreams Chicago
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Attention Jerry & Bob on boom hardware
Gents- The fittings at the aft section of the boom which secure the reefing lines on my boom are a couple of pad eyes of sufficient diameter to accomodate the diameter of the reefing line. I can't imagine using one of those aft fittings to secure the outhaul. As I said mine has a locking cleat on the under side of the boom. Fair winds, Mike
Gents- The fittings at the aft section of the boom which secure the reefing lines on my boom are a couple of pad eyes of sufficient diameter to accomodate the diameter of the reefing line. I can't imagine using one of those aft fittings to secure the outhaul. As I said mine has a locking cleat on the under side of the boom. Fair winds, Mike
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My outhaul secures the same way as yours, on the cleat under the boom. I am not planning to change this, and certainly would not suggest using the aft fittings you described. Do you have cam cleats on either side of the forward section of the boom for the reefing lines to pass through? Based on what the rigrite site shows, these snug up against the small white pulley in the center of the photo, behind a stainless plate, and there is a lever extending forward and down. I was thinking this might be the lever Jerry was refering to, and someone had "rerigged" his boom by running the outhaul through this fitting. Anyway, sad to say we won't have to worry about any of this for the next six months. You out of the water yet? Bob
My outhaul secures the same way as yours, on the cleat under the boom. I am not planning to change this, and certainly would not suggest using the aft fittings you described. Do you have cam cleats on either side of the forward section of the boom for the reefing lines to pass through? Based on what the rigrite site shows, these snug up against the small white pulley in the center of the photo, behind a stainless plate, and there is a lever extending forward and down. I was thinking this might be the lever Jerry was refering to, and someone had "rerigged" his boom by running the outhaul through this fitting. Anyway, sad to say we won't have to worry about any of this for the next six months. You out of the water yet? Bob
Ahh now I see, Bob
Bob: I took another look at your excellent photo and noticed what I had missed before. You are right there is a pair of cam cleats with internal springs to secure the reefing lines at the FRONT of the boom; and yours is, in fact missing. It makes the reefing process much easier to finish. Ignore my previous note on those fittings I was describing at the back of the boom it has nothing to do with the cam cleats you need. They are easy to install and maintain since they consist of the two cleats a couple of springs internal to the cleats, a through-pin and some retaining e-clips. I suppose Kenyon may have some spare parts, If not Rudy can probably help out. Yes, I am out of the water and on the hard. Going up to put the custom canvas on her in a week or two. Good thing I like to ski. Regards, Mike S/B Pitterpat, Lake Huron
Bob: I took another look at your excellent photo and noticed what I had missed before. You are right there is a pair of cam cleats with internal springs to secure the reefing lines at the FRONT of the boom; and yours is, in fact missing. It makes the reefing process much easier to finish. Ignore my previous note on those fittings I was describing at the back of the boom it has nothing to do with the cam cleats you need. They are easy to install and maintain since they consist of the two cleats a couple of springs internal to the cleats, a through-pin and some retaining e-clips. I suppose Kenyon may have some spare parts, If not Rudy can probably help out. Yes, I am out of the water and on the hard. Going up to put the custom canvas on her in a week or two. Good thing I like to ski. Regards, Mike S/B Pitterpat, Lake Huron
Isomat Boom & Gooseneck
Jerry, It sounds like you have the Isomat goose neck that I have on my '85 O28. There are 3 levers that control the 2 reef lines and the center one is for the outhaul. Just forward of the feeder area for the foot boltrope you should see a 3/16" hole. This is for a small pin shackle that is your missing tack fitting. The O'28 is a great boat,Good Luck and have fun, PM
Jerry, It sounds like you have the Isomat goose neck that I have on my '85 O28. There are 3 levers that control the 2 reef lines and the center one is for the outhaul. Just forward of the feeder area for the foot boltrope you should see a 3/16" hole. This is for a small pin shackle that is your missing tack fitting. The O'28 is a great boat,Good Luck and have fun, PM
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Thanks to all who replied. I think Paul has it right. There is a small hole at the front of the boom (3/16"?) which I suspect is for the shackle to attach the tack. Motored to the marina Saturday for winter haul-out. I now have six months to identify & locate the part that I lost.
Thanks to all who replied. I think Paul has it right. There is a small hole at the front of the boom (3/16"?) which I suspect is for the shackle to attach the tack. Motored to the marina Saturday for winter haul-out. I now have six months to identify & locate the part that I lost.
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