Next AC To Be Raced In 72 Foot Multi-hulls

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May 11, 2005
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Seidelman S37 Slidell, La.
I can see

The reasoning they give makes sense to me, and sounds good. Maybe it will entice some in the younger generation to become involved in sailing. For me, it is so far above and beyond the means of any normal person, I just can't get interested anymore. It would take something closer to what the rest of us sail and can afford to regain my interest.
 
Jul 29, 2010
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Macgregor 76 V-25 #928 Lake Mead, Nevada
I have lost all interest in the "America's" Cup. It used to be a gentleman's race run by very rich gentlemen from the New York Yacht Club who did everything in their power to keep it bolted down on a table at the clubhouse. Now it's big money syndicates and advertising slapped on the sides of the boats. I'll take Olympic class racing anytime. Fair Winds...
 

Tim R.

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May 27, 2004
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Let's please not start another debate about the America's Cup.

The race was founded on the idea of innovation and it continues today. It has always been contested in boats that non of "us" could afford. In fact, many of us would have a hard time coming up with the cash for a one time use sail on any AC boat.

And OLD SALT, those "gentlemen" basically cheated anywhere they could to keep from unscrewing those bolts. You sort of implied that but I am not certain. The first race when "America" beat all the Queen's boats was thought to have cheated when they didn't round a light that all the boats in front of them did. It turned out that the light was not in the SI so it was not cheating. So even in the first race, we used a loophole to win(although our better designed and more advanced boat probably would have anyway).

Anyone who wants to know more about the AC should read "Temple to the Wind"

The one rule I would love to see return to the race is that the boat has to sail to the race. With that the boat would be designed to be fast and strong. No more cancellations because it is blowing 20kts.
 

Joe

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Jun 1, 2004
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Catalina 27 Mission Bay, San Diego
I hope they race in SF bay..... Plenty of cool places to watch the action from... I just hope there are lots of challengers, Louis Vuitton style, so there are plenty of races. Those high tech cats are really neat and, combined with more creative broadcasting techniques and shorter races, could make the event appealing to a wide audience.
 
Jul 29, 2010
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Macgregor 76 V-25 #928 Lake Mead, Nevada
Did I leave out the cheating. Let's just say that the race committee was a little skewed. Don't expect the race to be held in SF bay or any other American locale. We don't have the cup. Fair Winds...
 
Jul 1, 2004
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Hunter 40 St. Petersburg
Did I miss something?

We don't have the cup. Fair Winds...
Didn't Larry and gang win it the last time around?

Nice post Tim. FWIW, the new class rules call for a wind range up to 33 knots but I get your point.

What I'd like to see is a return to the nationality rule. I don't really care what they sail in but I'd be a whole lot more excited about rooting for an American owned and crewed boat. Of course, that would probably mean the cup would stay in NZ for quite a while. :cry:
 

Tim R.

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May 27, 2004
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What I'd like to see is a return to the nationality rule. I don't really care what they sail in but I'd be a whole lot more excited about rooting for an American owned and crewed boat. Of course, that would probably mean the cup would stay in NZ for quite a while. :cry:
I also like the idea of a national crew. Here is some info on a Scot who crewed on a british challoenger and later became the skipper for NYYC defenders.

Early life
Charlie Barr was born in Gourock, Scotland in 1864 and first apprenticed as a grocer before working as a commercial fisherman. In 1884, he took a job with his older brother John, delivering a sailing yacht, Clara, to America. Clara's racing success was such that in 1887, John was selected to skipper the British challenger, Thistle, the representative of the Royal Clyde Yacht Club; Charlie served as a member of the crew. Thistle was soundly defeated by Volunteer. In the process, however, the brothers Barr were introduced to Nathanael Herreshoff, and Charlie Barr's yachting career was launched. Charlie Barr would sail Herreshoff designs for much of the rest of his professional sailing life.
America's Cup success

Captain Charles Barr was skipper of the yacht Columbia in 1899 and defeated Sir Thomas Lipton's Shamrock. Two years later, in 1901, Charlie Barr was again at the helm against a Lipton sponsored racing machine, Shamrock II, a 137 ft Watson-designed cutter. In 1903, Barr was the captain of the winning yacht Reliance, one of the most famous racing yachts to be designed by Nathanael Herreshoff. Barr was inducted into the America's Cup Hall of Fame in 1993.
 
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