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Oct 24, 2019
47
Hunter 38 Baltimore
Hello all, Getting ready to close on a Hunter 38 and thought I'd join the fun. After chartering and looking for years we finally pulled the trigger. Any tips on sailing / owning a 38 (2005) would be appreciated. It's a different rig than what I've sailed, this is our first "big boat" and we don't have a lot of experience. Retiring in a few months and then we hope to get lots of experience. Also don't have much experience with these web sites so be gentle.

Upper Chesapeake for the coming year then headed south with everyone else.

Lots to learn.

Donnie
 
Dec 25, 2000
5,945
Hunter Passage 42 Shelter Bay, WA
Welcome Donnie and congrats on your soon to be new boat. Different model here, but similar. We purchased our 1991 model in 2002 and have sailed her thousands of miles all over PNW waters mostly solo. Hunter did a wonderful job building their boats. It would help us if we knew more about your boat, how it is equipped, your expectations, etc.

If you go to the Boat Info tab, select your model for various articles submitted by owners. If you go to the 42 model, I have written several articles that you might find interesting. Please keep us in the loop on your progress with your new boat.

 
Oct 24, 2019
47
Hunter 38 Baltimore
Hey Terry, thanks for the reply. Very encouraging to hear that you feel Hunter did a good job on their boats. They sure get bashed on line. I looked and researched for years and talked to many sailors. While the Hunters got a bad rap on line, seamed like every sailor I talked to had the same thing to say. "I had a Hunter for years. Loved that boat". I understand their limitations and that of any boat in that class.

I don't plan to sail around the world or even cross the Atlantic, but a trip to the West Indies would check off a few boxes. Even that is not a trip I would take lightly.

She is not well equipped at all. Basic mariner package and that's it. I ended up with this boat because it ticked most of the boxes and it was a deal. I would have loved a Tartan or a Sabre but no one was giving one away. Anything else in this price range was 10 years older and so was the equipment. Figured I'd spend the additional $20k to fit it out and I'll know what I have and how it works. The deal is not closed yet so I'll refrain from saying which one it is till the ink is dry. The survey is done and I can deal with the things we found for the price.

I thought we had a deal on a 42 prior to this but it didn't work out. They are nice boats as well. Went to survey on a Catalina 380 and it was bad. Money well spent on that survey.

We've been chartering in the BVI's, Grenadines and New England for the past 8 years and now that I'm almost done with this work thing it was time. Lets hope it doesn't bankrupt me. I've owned boats for years just not anything this big and I'm not a seasoned sailor. Sure I can put the sails up and get there and back without wrecking it but I don't consider myself a sailor. Yet.
 
Dec 14, 2003
1,438
Hunter 34 Lake of Two Mountains, QC, Can
Welcome to this fraternity Donnie and welcome to the Hunter family. I've had 2 Hunters, the last one I still enjoy after 20 years. And don't worry about it being a big boat. I've always found that big boats are more forgiving of the many small mistakes one makes when sailing them. This site is a wealth of information that you can use whenever. There is always someone who has had the problem before and it sure helps to hear the various opinions before tackling a job on the boat. Good luck in you new venture and keep us posted as to the closing and the start of your new sailor life. Claude
 
Dec 25, 2000
5,945
Hunter Passage 42 Shelter Bay, WA
We purchased ours from a very motivated seller and ended up with a nice lightly used boat equipped with most all the bells and whistles. Engine had only 600+ hours and the Genset only 200+. No regrets here.
 
Apr 11, 2010
979
Hunter 38 Whitehall MI
Hello all, Getting ready to close on a Hunter 38 and thought I'd join the fun. After chartering and looking for years we finally pulled the trigger. Any tips on sailing / owning a 38 (2005) would be appreciated. It's a different rig than what I've sailed, this is our first "big boat" and we don't have a lot of experience. Retiring in a few months and then we hope to get lots of experience. Also don't have much experience with these web sites so be gentle.

Upper Chesapeake for the coming year then headed south with everyone else.

Lots to learn.

Donnie
HI and welcome.
We have a 2008 38 that we purchased new in 2009. It was a dealer demo and was still in their inventory in 2009 when we purchased her. Love the boat!
couple of things to start with.
- The first thing the dealer told us during our test sail is that when the winds get to 15 knots reef the main some. I’ve found about 1/3 of sail works. You reef the main first on this boat. The boat carries a lot of beam far back and with full main she heels a lot and it’s like dragging a barn door through the water. Reef, flatten her out and she takes right off.
- I replaced the standard fixed prop with a max prop and it’s one of the best upgrades I’ve done. Boat backs better, stops quickly and the prop feathers when sailing so performance is better.
- the 38 tends to sail like a banshee on anchor. Do a search in the site archives on anchor sailing and you will get many threads on that topic. Lots of suggestions on how to deal with it.
- I did replace the 22 pound Delta that came in the mariner package with a 35 pound anchor. The 22 was very marginal in the ratings and given the windage of this boat I felt like pushing the margins was not wise.
- This one was a matter of preference and in total honesty was a very extravagant decision but my wife hated the blue fabric on the interior cushions. At one year of ownership we had new upholstery done. It lightened the interior and made a huge difference. Like I said bad financial decision but we Like it better and it makes us want to spend more time there because of it.
- Should you find yourself in a slip where you get waves from the stern, the slapping is significant. It will thunk and slap and makes it nearly impossible to sleep. There is a product called Slap Stopper or something like pool noodles laid on the water at the stern helps with the slap.

there are quite a few threads on the 38 so look for those. You might even want to look at the posts I’ve done.
also check out the 38 section of the site. Good information there. Hunter resources, by model
if you need any parts, the 38 section of the SBO store is a fabulous resource. Hunter 38 Parts
If you don’t see a part you need, contact them. They are very resourceful and can often get what you need.


don’t hesitate to drop me a note if you have any other questions. I’m happy to chat.
 
Oct 24, 2019
47
Hunter 38 Baltimore
Thanks very much for the tips. That's exactly the kind of info I was looking for and follows with what I've read about the big main and keeping the boat flat in the water. My wife will be happier if the rail's not in the water all the time. After seeing the anchor on the boat I was already looking. Both Rocna and Manson recommended a 45 but your 35 works good huh.

The cushions are worn on this one and will need to be recovered. It has the light fabric already. I'd love to see what you went with. I'd also like to know if you solved your sailing at anchor issue.
 
Oct 24, 2019
47
Hunter 38 Baltimore
Yes Andrew it is a B&R with furling main. I've never sailed one. Only traditional slab reefing sloops with large head sails and standard main. I'm sure they have their own characteristics as quadrille38 pointed out. I'm sure it won't take long to get used to it but I appreciate the tips.
 
Jan 1, 2006
7,646
Slickcraft 26 Sailfish
You're going to love tacking that smaller jib - it's so much less work than a 150. Get the timing right and it can be done virtually crank-less. All you'll need the winch for is to add some sheet tension. I agree about earlier reefing. Once the rudder loads up you are really fighting the boat. I found that on my H356 that you want ultra low stretch line for the outhaul. The double dacron braid was too stretchy and when a gust hit the boat the sail/line would stretch. Then it was more powerful and the boat would heel over and misbehave. Once I installed the very low stretch line, a gust would hit and the boat would dip and then come back up with more speed. It was a beautiful thing. We also found that there is a point where rolling in the main more would create a much deeper shape (Our main was tired), which didn't reduce power very much more. But it could induce more heel. So there was a practical limit there for the boat and sail we had.
 
Oct 24, 2019
47
Hunter 38 Baltimore
interesting. Just the type of things I'll need to take notice of. Not being too experienced these are things I might not notice.
 
Jan 1, 2006
7,646
Slickcraft 26 Sailfish
Re-reading my post reminds me not to post before I finish my am tea. I think I was verbally unclear about the deepening of the sail shape for the second reef position. Since our main was tiring and therefore more deep in shape (Meaning more curve in the sail), when it was rolled up there was a point when the extra sail material would be pushed back on the sail. That would make the shape even more curved and hence powerful. Powerful not being a good thing as the wind increases. So there was a limit to the effectiveness of rolling the sail in much past the first reef. When we rolled to the second reef or further there was little sail so that worked. I hope that's more clear but we've strayed into Captain's Hour so ...
 
Apr 11, 2010
979
Hunter 38 Whitehall MI
Thanks very much for the tips. That's exactly the kind of info I was looking for and follows with what I've read about the big main and keeping the boat flat in the water. My wife will be happier if the rail's not in the water all the time. After seeing the anchor on the boat I was already looking. Both Rocna and Manson recommended a 45 but your 35 works good huh.

The cushions are worn on this one and will need to be recovered. It has the light fabric already. I'd love to see what you went with. I'd also like to know if you solved your sailing at anchor issue.
I have not had any trouble with holding with the 35 pound anchor and 30 feet of chain In maybe 20 knots of wind. If you have any doubt go heavier it never hurts as long as the windlass can lift the anchor.

here is a picture of the interior after we cushions were done BA497796-A2C0-4608-B28E-7C72C4C53961.jpeg
 
Apr 11, 2010
979
Hunter 38 Whitehall MI
Thank you, it’s a buckskin color suede like fabric. Its a specialty fabric made for boats. We had the upholstery work done by a local company. They do dodgers and biminis, interior upholstery, and make the most fabulous covers.
Custom fit and better yet they offer a modestly priced service where they put cover on in the fall. In the spring they take it off, inspect and repair, and store it for me.

Just so happens I had to have a new cover made this year. After 10 years the old one had reached the end of its life.

oh I forgot to mention that I did get a FinDelta anchor riding sail to help with the anchor sailing. It has helped significantly. Friend across the dock from me solved his on an O’Day by going to all chain rode. I have 30 feet and have been contemplating adding more.
 

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Oct 24, 2019
47
Hunter 38 Baltimore
I'd like to know the dimensions on that FinDelta. I have some old sails and was thinking about trying to make one. They're a bit pricey. Worth it I'm sure but.....
 
Apr 11, 2010
979
Hunter 38 Whitehall MI
I'd like to know the dimensions on that FinDelta. I have some old sails and was thinking about trying to make one. They're a bit pricey. Worth it I'm sure but.....
unfortunately I’m not able to help with that. The sail is on the boat and it’s all tucked away for the winter.
 
Feb 21, 2013
4,638
Hunter 46 Point Richmond, CA
You will like to boat. We had a 2004 Hunter 386 LE fin keel from 2011 - 2018. She sails balanced with no weather helm. She maneuvers very well with the large spade rudder. She only needs 5 knots to sail and is comfortable in 10 - 20 knots. She easily achieves hull speed. We reefed over 20 knots. It points 30 degrees off the wind all day. She does not sail directly down wind due to the swept back spreaders so we sailed her as close as we could downwind without jibbing on a broad reach. As with all in-mast furling main sails be sure to keep the main sail tight as you unfurl and furl (lots of threads on this site explain how to do that), otherwise it can get stuck in the mast and ruin a good day of sailing. The fractional rig design made flying an asymmetrical spinnaker easy without a bowsprit as you can attach the tack to the end of the anchor roller. Very comfortable to stay overnight on extended trips. Passengers liked the comfort of the v-berth. Cockpit will hold 9. The stock, un-battened main sail is plenty of sail but you can replace it with a partial battened main for larger sail, which I did. Stock head sail was fine. Replaced the high pitch isolation transformer in the aft cabin with a quite galvanic isolator. Stock anchor undersized so you might consider up-sizing. Overall the fiberglass, electrical, mechanical, rigging construction is excellent with reasonable storage, good quality hatches, deck hardware, windlass, refrigerator, freezer and plastic fuel, water and waste tanks. Easy to access all the mechanical systems and engine for inspection and maintenance. Single water and holding tank and head keeps it simple. Only major maintenance while we had the boat included replacing the Yanmar seawater pump (tricky since it required removing alternator, disconnecting transmission, removing the port side motor mount and jacking the engine up), Jabsco electric head pump (plug in play), Jabsco electric head solenoid valve (plug in play) and sanitation hose with Trident odor shield sanitation hose.

We like the boat design now have a 2005 Hunter 46.
 
Oct 24, 2019
47
Hunter 38 Baltimore
Thanks. That all sounds very encouraging. Except for the Seawater pump part. that sure seams like a disproportionate amount of work to change a pump. Hope they redesigned it in the 38. Cheers