"New" Raritan Fresh Water Head

rfrye1

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Jun 15, 2004
589
Hunter H376 San Diego
I see the ad for Raritan's new fresh water head (pressurized), but I can't find any info on it. I am wondering if the water supply to the head is isolated from the fresh water supply? Or does this new design "fix" that issue? Nothing o. Their website I can see.

Thanks. Bob
 
Dec 2, 1997
8,915
- - LIttle Rock
Here's what I have on it from Raritan...

I see the ad for Raritan's new fresh water head (pressurized), but I can't find any info on it. I am wondering if the water supply to the head is isolated from the fresh water supply? Or does this new design "fix" that issue? Nothing o. Their website I can see. Thanks. Bob
Raritan's new "Fresh Head" is the first ever fully manual toilet designed to use pressured fresh water from the onboard potable water supply...the water supply does NOT have to isolated from the boat's fresh water system. According to the advance word they sent me in May, "There is a vacuum break in the back of the toilet bowl. The user simply pushes the lever on the left to allow whatever water they want in the bowl, the handle then operates a diaphragm pump to discharge the waste. The lever on the left is to lock the diaphragm in place similar to the Jabsco twist n lock."

They also told me that they intend to offer it as a "conversion." The base is the same footprint as the Jabsco manual toilets and there will be just a pump conversion available. They're still working on the price for that. They've promised to send me the owners manual as soon as it's available, but I haven't seen it yet. I do have a photo. I'll post more info as soon as I can get it.

I'm really curious to know if this toilet will also allow the user to do something that no other manual toilet can do: add water to the bowl ahead of solids, which eliminates the need to use a cup to do that (I've always been amazed by how few people know to do that).
 

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Kermit

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Jul 31, 2010
5,669
AquaCat 12.5 17342 Wateree Lake, SC
I see the ad for Raritan's new fresh water head (pressurized), but I can't find any info on it. I am wondering if the water supply to the head is isolated from the fresh water supply?/QUOTE]

What's a little backwash among friends?
 
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Sep 23, 2009
1,475
O'Day 34-At Last Rock Hall, Md
Would a check valve in the fresh water supply work?
Planning to do that soon.
Meanwhile, we us the shower nozzle to fill.
 
Sep 15, 2009
6,243
S2 9.2a Fairhope Al
Would a check valve in the fresh water supply work?
Planning to do that soon.
Meanwhile, we us the shower nozzle to fill.
bacteria does not know what a check valve is ...it will go back to the fresh water holding tank and then the fun begins.....death by check valve if you drink from your fresh water supply
 
Dec 19, 2006
5,818
Hunter 36 Punta Gorda
Sprayer

I found it easy to have a top kitchen sink sprayer next to tiolet and tapped into
my sink next to my head,got the idea from my motor home switch had one to rinse and easy adding water for flushing.
The water value went bad on my motor home and now use the sprayer on both
sailboat and motor home and nice and easy for guess or anyone to use hanging next to head.
Using fresh water for flushing so much better.
Nick
 

rfrye1

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Jun 15, 2004
589
Hunter H376 San Diego
I'll be watching for this one. I've been meaning to replace my Jabsco for sometime. I can rebuild it with my eyes closed!

Thanks Peggy.

Bob.
 
Sep 23, 2009
1,475
O'Day 34-At Last Rock Hall, Md
Good to know!
How does the Raritan head deal with the problem?
I was looking for a way not to have to install a separate
water tank.
 
Dec 2, 1997
8,915
- - LIttle Rock
Good to know!
How does the Raritan head deal with the problem?
I was looking for a way not to have to install a separate
water tank.
They deal with it in this toilet the same way toilet mfrs deal with it in electric toilets designed to use pressurized fresh water--a built-in vacuum breaker and water valve.

But you wouldn't have to install a separate water tank to eliminate sea water odor problems anyway...There's a very simple--and CHEAP!!--solution that's been discussed a bunch of times in this forum. Search the archives for "flush water odor" or "intake odor" etc...you'll find it. Greatest idea since the automatic bread slicer IMO.

And to add to a comment Woody made: "bacteria does not know what a check valve is ...it will go back to the fresh water holding tank and then the fun begins.....death by check valve if you drink from your fresh water supply."

NEVER connect any toilet, manual or electric, that's designed to use "raw" (sea, lake river) water to the potable water system...it cannot be done without risk of contaminating the potable water supply, damage to the toilet, or both. "But we never drink water from our tanks" you argue. You "drink" a lot more of it than you realize...you wash your hands, then pick up a sandwich...wash dishes in it...rinse out a cup, then pour your "pure" bottled water into that cup...brush your teeth, wash your face, shower--impossible to do without getting ANY water into your mouth, even just off your lips... I could go on, but you get the idea.

Raw water toilets are designed to PULL water through the pump...toilets that use fresh water are designed to use pressurized water, which pressure PUSHES through the pump. Pushing water through a pump that's designed to pull water through it will mess with seal and o-ring alignment out of whack in the pump.

Using the shower head isn't good for the pump either...because bowl contents on go through the bottom part of the pump, leaving most of the pump dry, which is very hard on the seals o-rings etc, drastically shortens their life unless you're really meticulous about making sure the pump is always well-lubricated. It's an even worse idea if you have an electric toilet, 'cuz cutting off the flush water intake to an electric toilet will totally "fry" the intake impeller...the toilet will no longer be able to pull in any flush water if you ever need to.
 
Sep 23, 2009
1,475
O'Day 34-At Last Rock Hall, Md
Thank you Head Mistress.
Glad I didn't have to find all that out the
hard way.
 
Dec 2, 1997
8,915
- - LIttle Rock
Latest from Raritan about the new "Fresh Head"

I see the ad for Raritan's new fresh water head (pressurized), but I can't find any info on it.
This may be the slowest new product roll out in history! Owners manual and prices are still a work in progress, but they've just released a promo sheet (attached PDF), which should answer most if not all of your questions about it.
 

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