New holding tank for O'Day 34, lessons learned

Sep 23, 2009
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O'Day 34-At Last Rock Hall, Md
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Replaced my holding tank recently and thought Iwould pass on some lessons learned the hard way for other O'Day owners and maybe some other lines too.
First off I couldn't have done it without the help of Peggy the Head Mistress and her book. There was a strange garlic like odor in the bow and the forward locker was unusable because of it so the hoses had to be replaced and since the tank was old I did not trust it and hoped to increase the capacity at the same time. At Peggy's suggestion I used in the locker. The odor is now gone and we can use the locker again.
Lessons learned
The first pic shows the plywood base that the tank rests on. The original tank outflow was at the bottom aft edge the new tank has two stand pipe outflows at the aft top edge. I assumed that the base was slanted downward on the aft portion, wrong! The tank actually tilts down in the front so I have to go back and figure a way to correct that to drain better to the standpipes.
The second pic shows how I removed the deck discharge hose. The hose stunk because it had a low point where nasty stuff collected. I kept it attached to the tank, cut it high up and capped it off with tape. Thus I was able to remove it with it still attached to the tank and never spilt a drop or suffered a wiff.
The third pic show a failure attaching the Raritan hose to the standpipes. The Raritan hose is great stuff, very easy to route but it has a wire reinforcement that prevents it from stretching. Peggy informed me that the GREY barbed fittings are actually a little oversized (I measured it and she was right as always). I found some WHTE smooth fittings of the same nominal size and they went on very easily.
The last two pics show the new tank in place. The Ronco people were very helpful. I measured carefully and made a cardboard mockup to assure that the larger tank would fit with just a little cutting of the port access opening. Everything fit till I went to reinstall the tray inserts that O'Day uses. As the pics show, they no longer fit as the tank blocks their lower section. They now replace other tray inserts that were cracked. The original tank calculated out to only 11 gals, the new is 17 or 21 gals. Lesson learned, it would have been a lot easier to just keep the original size tank.
Now even after being closed up the boat has no odors. Thank you Peggy!
 
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Sep 23, 2009
1,475
O'Day 34-At Last Rock Hall, Md
The pureayer worked miracles. Meant to put that in but forgot the name.
 
Jan 4, 2006
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Hunter 310 West Vancouver, B.C.
Replaced my holding tank recently and thought Iwould pass on some lessons learned the hard way for other O'Day owners and maybe some other lines too.
The one thing you omitted was the vitriolic cursing and swearing needed while installing the hoses.

I replaced my holding tank hoses last spring and found that the correct verbalization helped immensely. Sent the dock neighbours scurrying.
 
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Apr 11, 2010
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Hunter 38 Whitehall MI
The one thing you omitted was the vitriolic cursing and swearing needed while installing the hoses.

I replaced my holding tank hoses last spring and found that the correct verbalization helped immensely. Sent the dock neighbours scurrying.

Did a project like that on an O'Day 28 years ago and I'd have to agree. The cursing was required to help the hoses fit correctly. That and a hair dryer to heat the ends to help them fit over the barbs.
I always evaluate boat projects based the the number of knuckles bloodied for the cause. Head hoses rank up at the top as a 10 knuckle job!!!
 
Sep 23, 2009
1,475
O'Day 34-At Last Rock Hall, Md
Surprisingly, given the experiences of other projects, there was little or no cursing on this project. Rebuilding the steering was an entirely different matter. My two biggest worries was that the ordered tank might no fit or that there might be a spill. Fortunately, all went smoothly.
 

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Jan 20, 2005
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Nauticat 321 pilothouse 32 Erie PA
my best friend for hose fittings is a water boiler electric kettle and big bowl , get the water hot and dump some dish soap in. let hose ends sit in hot h 2 0 to soften and expand before you try fitting them over barbs. the dish soap makes them slippery and go on more easily. i also bought a set of 3 hose pliers from harbor freight, they are really nice and make me feel better every time i look at them.
 
May 11, 2018
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O'Day 34SL Alexandria
I saw this thread and it was helpful to me while I was researching and prepping to do the same job. I have an O'Day 34 and someone attempted to do a DIY sanitary change without doing it correctly. Anytime I opened up the boat to use it, it stank. If too full, my sanitary tank would leak back into the toilet and splash out. So I decided to replace the entire thing. I went with the Dometic 20 HTS-VRT, Dometic Sani-pump, Dometic Tank Monitor, Dometic Vent filter, Jabsco toilet, and replaced the through-hull with a Raritan lockable ball valve. It meets ABYC standards and immune to corrosion and electrolysis. It was messy getting the old stuff out as the tank was 1/2 full and unable to be pumped, but the end results are much better than before. I also painted the entire space. I'm unable to fit the plastic trays back into the openings, but that's not really a concern for me. They didn't fit well to begin with and weren't used. I'll likely use this for life vest or additional sail storage now.
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SFS

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Aug 18, 2015
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Currently Boatless Okinawa
Good job. The only thing I would have done differently is go with a Raritan head. You can make that change when the Jabsco quits working next year.:banghead: