just received a new boat quote that was just north of 150,000.00. to my surprise on the bottom of the form the dealer stated that i could order extra equipment from him at discounted prices!! including dock lines, fenders, anchor. shouldnt the boat come with dock lines, fenders and maybe an anchor. will the dealer hold the boat to the dock by hand before they deliver it to you? can a dealer launch a boat in us water without coast guard equipment? what should i expect as "standard equipment"? thanks for any input
- Status
Everything is Negotiable
Including type of paint on the bottom, commissioning, cradle, safety gear,dock lines, anchor and rode, electronics, etc. The manufacturer will have a data sheet which will tell you what is included; you should also be able to get an options sheet showing what everything else costs. Just remember that you can make a deal on everything.
Including type of paint on the bottom, commissioning, cradle, safety gear,dock lines, anchor and rode, electronics, etc. The manufacturer will have a data sheet which will tell you what is included; you should also be able to get an options sheet showing what everything else costs. Just remember that you can make a deal on everything.
short answer . these are items that you can
negotiate for. he wants to sell a boat, you want to buy a boat. if you are willing to eat out of his hand he will sell you these things at a discount. But if he really wants to sell you the boat he may throw them in as incentives. This man earns a commission on everything he sells. Work on him.
negotiate for. he wants to sell a boat, you want to buy a boat. if you are willing to eat out of his hand he will sell you these things at a discount. But if he really wants to sell you the boat he may throw them in as incentives. This man earns a commission on everything he sells. Work on him.
make him an offer....
...not necessariy the list price. And include ground tackle, canvas, cockpit cushions, etc. Let him counter that offer. You should know how much these items will cost you elsewhere... do a little research. Look at some other dealers. They often offer the "get started" package with the price. This would include bottom prep and paint, tuning the rig, ground tackle etc. If you know the price of these things it will be easier to negotiate.
...not necessariy the list price. And include ground tackle, canvas, cockpit cushions, etc. Let him counter that offer. You should know how much these items will cost you elsewhere... do a little research. Look at some other dealers. They often offer the "get started" package with the price. This would include bottom prep and paint, tuning the rig, ground tackle etc. If you know the price of these things it will be easier to negotiate.
some times i wonder
how someone with 150K for a boat wouldnt know that the answer is "oh that'd be bout nuther 1700." BTW even tho this boat is beyond my means i don't know a Sailer that has a standard boat anyway IMO
how someone with 150K for a boat wouldnt know that the answer is "oh that'd be bout nuther 1700." BTW even tho this boat is beyond my means i don't know a Sailer that has a standard boat anyway IMO
Choices
There are choices to be made. Where you sail will help determine the anchor you use and the length of rode. How you prefer to dock will determine fender choices and dock lines. And, yes, the dealer can sell the boat without the safety equipment but you can't sail it without the equipment. You need to do some more homework about what items you want and then negotiate with the dealer or get them on your own. I hope this isn't news to you - but - buying the boat is not the last time you'll spend money on it. *yks
There are choices to be made. Where you sail will help determine the anchor you use and the length of rode. How you prefer to dock will determine fender choices and dock lines. And, yes, the dealer can sell the boat without the safety equipment but you can't sail it without the equipment. You need to do some more homework about what items you want and then negotiate with the dealer or get them on your own. I hope this isn't news to you - but - buying the boat is not the last time you'll spend money on it. *yks
As a sail and powerboat dealer...
we used to include our version of the Cruise-Pak with each boat we sold--anchor, line, flares, life jackets. The wholesale cost was added into the base price of the boat so we didn't make money on it, but it was an edge against competitors and an attractive "get started" proposition to the buyer. If a buyer wanted something else (larger, better, more featured, etc.), we did negotiate with them, and if installation was required, we charged our regular labor rate to do so. The manufacturer's and dealer's literature and "window sheet" should spell out what is "standard equipment" or included in the deal. It is naive to expect a dealer to throw all kinds of extras in the deal and suffer a decrease in margin, especially if the boat is "show priced" or some other discounting has been applied. If something goes wrong, you want him around to fix it, especially if it's under warranty, and not have to travel a great distance to the next nearest dealer if he goes under.
we used to include our version of the Cruise-Pak with each boat we sold--anchor, line, flares, life jackets. The wholesale cost was added into the base price of the boat so we didn't make money on it, but it was an edge against competitors and an attractive "get started" proposition to the buyer. If a buyer wanted something else (larger, better, more featured, etc.), we did negotiate with them, and if installation was required, we charged our regular labor rate to do so. The manufacturer's and dealer's literature and "window sheet" should spell out what is "standard equipment" or included in the deal. It is naive to expect a dealer to throw all kinds of extras in the deal and suffer a decrease in margin, especially if the boat is "show priced" or some other discounting has been applied. If something goes wrong, you want him around to fix it, especially if it's under warranty, and not have to travel a great distance to the next nearest dealer if he goes under.
Isn't buying a new boat like
buying a new car? I would think so. It's all in the wants and needs of the buyer. The buyer should know what they want and "need", better than anyone could here. If someone has enough money to buy a "new" boat, one would think, they know what they need and want. Buying and selling, is a game we all play at one time or another in our lives. What comes "standard " on a BMW isn't necessarily the same that comes "standard" on a KIA. Spare tires don't even come with a Corvette anymore. Who's doin the shopping here? I thought the dealer provided what ever the buyer is looking for. Standard, is differant for differant manufactures. The dealer can launch a boat that sinks, ten feet from shore. Keep it up, Ctskip
buying a new car? I would think so. It's all in the wants and needs of the buyer. The buyer should know what they want and "need", better than anyone could here. If someone has enough money to buy a "new" boat, one would think, they know what they need and want. Buying and selling, is a game we all play at one time or another in our lives. What comes "standard " on a BMW isn't necessarily the same that comes "standard" on a KIA. Spare tires don't even come with a Corvette anymore. Who's doin the shopping here? I thought the dealer provided what ever the buyer is looking for. Standard, is differant for differant manufactures. The dealer can launch a boat that sinks, ten feet from shore. Keep it up, Ctskip
If I recall..............
when i bought my H36 on the left coast the dealer had a "dealer package" which included some fenders, prep, anchor, and safety equiptment. It was part of the boat price....that is why sometimes you might see 10K difference in price from one dealership to another. abe
when i bought my H36 on the left coast the dealer had a "dealer package" which included some fenders, prep, anchor, and safety equiptment. It was part of the boat price....that is why sometimes you might see 10K difference in price from one dealership to another. abe
At the end of world war two you could buy a new
car with chrome plated bumpers or painted wood, Passenger side windshield wipers were an option as was the back seat. These were the first new cars built since 1941 so the demand was high and people were just glad to be able to replace the old car.
car with chrome plated bumpers or painted wood, Passenger side windshield wipers were an option as was the back seat. These were the first new cars built since 1941 so the demand was high and people were just glad to be able to replace the old car.
Catalina?
If you are looking for a Catalina, I have the 2006 msrp list with all the different options. The list contains descriptions of all the options, so you will know what you are buying. Email me and I will send you a copy next week when I am back home. Jim
If you are looking for a Catalina, I have the 2006 msrp list with all the different options. The list contains descriptions of all the options, so you will know what you are buying. Email me and I will send you a copy next week when I am back home. Jim
New Boat Options way more than Price
It's been a long while since our boat was purchased new, but after negotiating a very competitive price of the boat, which included commissioning and bottom paint, and the typical Hunter Cruise Pack items; we included a set ammount for an instrument package with installation; included two coats of epoxy barrier coating prior to the bottom paint; and a set amount for a Headfoil and 155%Genoa from a local sailmaker, which all ultimately amounted to several thousand dollars bove the base price. An important point is this was all included in the purchase price for the loan amount, not paid for out of pocket in the first month of ownership. The Dealer helped obtain a better loan rate than I was able to personally obtain. I installed the radio antenna while the mast was down and fished the cable thru the mast. The dealer finished the cable run thru to the nav station and steped the mast (included in comissioning); I ran the 12 volt feed and installed my old radio. I did a fair amount of fairing at the keel to bottom joint before the yard did the barrier coats and bottom paint, and I installed a separately purchased folding prop. This established a trusted working relationship that continued for many years including winter lay-ups and spring launches with the same cooperative attitudes. I've never hesitated to recommend the Hunter Tidewater Dealership at HavreDeGrace, MD, and as I said at the start, their price was competative.
It's been a long while since our boat was purchased new, but after negotiating a very competitive price of the boat, which included commissioning and bottom paint, and the typical Hunter Cruise Pack items; we included a set ammount for an instrument package with installation; included two coats of epoxy barrier coating prior to the bottom paint; and a set amount for a Headfoil and 155%Genoa from a local sailmaker, which all ultimately amounted to several thousand dollars bove the base price. An important point is this was all included in the purchase price for the loan amount, not paid for out of pocket in the first month of ownership. The Dealer helped obtain a better loan rate than I was able to personally obtain. I installed the radio antenna while the mast was down and fished the cable thru the mast. The dealer finished the cable run thru to the nav station and steped the mast (included in comissioning); I ran the 12 volt feed and installed my old radio. I did a fair amount of fairing at the keel to bottom joint before the yard did the barrier coats and bottom paint, and I installed a separately purchased folding prop. This established a trusted working relationship that continued for many years including winter lay-ups and spring launches with the same cooperative attitudes. I've never hesitated to recommend the Hunter Tidewater Dealership at HavreDeGrace, MD, and as I said at the start, their price was competative.
Sail Away Pricing
I think that means you have sails but no bumpers or dock lines because you're sailing AWAY and not stayin' tied to the dock. Everything is negotiable and nothing is FREE; but you can get packaged pricing.
I think that means you have sails but no bumpers or dock lines because you're sailing AWAY and not stayin' tied to the dock. Everything is negotiable and nothing is FREE; but you can get packaged pricing.
- Status