New 105% Jib

LeoLambert310 · Mar 10, 2016

I have a 2000 310 with a 110 and sailed in 25-30 kt with no problems.

Joe · Mar 10, 2016

I think a barber hauler would solve your problem.

Alansails · Mar 11, 2016

It is my understanding that a New Headsail will be able to allow you to point closer to the wind, no matter what size you decide on. We have just ordered a new 135% headsail from North Sails, as our boat came to us with original sails, and it will help us heel less and point closer to the wind!
But that is alot more expensive than a Barber Hauler!

Jackdaw · Mar 11, 2016

Alansails said:
It is my understanding that a New Headsail will be able to allow you to point closer to the wind, no matter what size you decide on.

Looking at the 310, it looks particularly poorly designed to sail with a jib. The car looks like it needs to be right where the (very wide) shroud base is for a 110-100, and even then it is too far off the centerline for optimal sheeting angles. Not a great setup. Barberhaulers might help, but if it were my boat I'd look at mounting a separate jib track inside the shroud base.

cam · Mar 11, 2016

Hi Michael, Campbell STEWART here from Fremantle Western Australia. We have high velocity winds here too and for the same reasons as you I am contemplating a smaller jib, say 110-115%. I have done this downsizing exercise with other yachts and the outcome has been very good. I think 105% may be too small. Good luck!

Kings Gambit · Mar 11, 2016

Michael Pearce said:
Hi everyone, we've been sailing our C310 for years (since 2000) with the big 135% genoa, but I've always found the boat heels too much (more than 15%) when the wind gets up over 15knts ... 20 - 25 is quite common in our area. I'm tired of always having to sail with a semi-furled head sail, because I lose efficiency and pointing capability. I'm looking at purchasing a new jib of size 105%. Does anyone else have experience with various jib sizes and can recommend an optimal size? Some background, I was considering a 100% but the sailmaker has noted that with anything smaller than 105% I would then have to sheet on the inside of the shrouds to be able to point high. This is because we have a single genoa track intended for larger sails. I don't like the idea of sheeting inside the shrouds, because then I would have to change over to outside the shrouds for sailing downwind ... not exactly a pleasant thought ...
Any thoughts, suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Michael
C310 Heart String
Vancouver, BC

Last year I replaced my Elvstrøm 135% furling genoa with a 120% furling genoa from UK Sails for sailing in the usually higher winds of the northern Channel Islands, compared to Long Beach. I think going to a 120% might offer you a good compromise for your needs assuming your track configuration will accept it. I've been happy with mine. For one thing, not as much sail to furl now!!

Stu Jackson · Mar 11, 2016

We have ONLY an inside track. Many of our boats came with both. Of course, outside (gunwale) tracks won't let you head up as much, but the only trade off I've seen (besides barberhaulers) is to run dual jib sheets.

There's also this:

A very illuminating and interesting discussion on co.com for those of you who might be in the market for a new jib.

http://forums.catalina.sailboatowners.com/showthread.php?t=155362

Please read all three pages. Enjoy.

I run an 85% in the high summer winds and a 110 in winter or for summer racing.

rpwillia · Mar 12, 2016

I replaced our 130 with another one a few years ago. I stuck with the original size as we tend to get light winds on the Potomac. I have raced in 30 knot winds, but that is with a full crew and it can be challenging. For regular cruising or just sailing around, I like your idea of a 110 or less as it sounds like you would like it.

JK_Boston_Catalina310 · Mar 20, 2016

A little late but my vote would be a 120 with a high foot so I could improve visibility. That's my biggest problem with the 135.

Stu Jackson · Mar 20, 2016

One of another recurring type of questions is "LP" or luff perpendicular. From one of those discussions I saved this image. The point (pi) is that you can have a BIGGER jib while still moving the clew up off the deck. Not all 130s have to be decksweepers. Talk to your sailmaker, because the position of the clew is also important to the position of your track. The higher the clew usually the track's forwardmost position position can be further aft, so if you have what you call a "short" track can work, where it wouldn't with a decksweeper.

Good luck.

paulj · Mar 20, 2016

The over 70 age group......two settings.

paulj

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