Does anyone have a suggestion regarding a motor? 4 vs 8? We are on Great South Bay on Long Island. Anybody have something for sale?
Need long shaft outboard for my 222 oday
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The 4 will do if its a long shaft. The longer the shaft, the better. When the boat pitches, the prop will stay in the water. Any size will move your boat when the weather is nice. I'm using a 9.9 on a 5000 lb boat now. My previous boat was 2300 lbs and had a 3.5 outboard long shaft and it was fine . Its only when punching into a short chop and a stiff headwind that you might need up to 8 HP. I think a 6 (long shaft) would be a good all around comprimise. Don't buy anything without the long shaft
I have the Tohatsu, 6 hp Sail Pro on my 222. It has a 25" shaft and works well in a chop and pushes the boat nicely into a brisk headwind. I sometimes raise it in shallow water just to make sure it does not bottom out.
Also, you can probably get good results with a 6hp motor with a high thrust prop on it. Most of these engines come stock with a prop designed to get a Jon boat on plane at relatively high RPMs, but we displacement boaters run lower RPMs, so we don't need to optimize for speed.
My 222 came with a log book written by the people who named her 10 years ago. When they bought her she came with a 4 hp motor, and they wrote several times in the book about how absolutely underpowered and slow it was and how much they hated it. This, on a lake that is very sheltered. They traded it for an 8 hp sailmaster (which it still has) and almost sang about it.
I couldnt tell you what a 4hp would be like on that boat with any personal experience, but I can tell you the 8 hp is plenty powerful, and throttled back moves along quite smartly, smoothly and somewhat quiet. By comparison, a 4hp would be likely be wound up pretty good and making some noise to do what the 8hp does at part throttle, and you would have no additional power for headwinds.
I couldnt tell you what a 4hp would be like on that boat with any personal experience, but I can tell you the 8 hp is plenty powerful, and throttled back moves along quite smartly, smoothly and somewhat quiet. By comparison, a 4hp would be likely be wound up pretty good and making some noise to do what the 8hp does at part throttle, and you would have no additional power for headwinds.
I would go with an 8 Hp long shaft with a charging system. I still use my 1999 Johnson long shaft two stroke with a charging system and I love this engine. It has a pull start with the gear control lever in front of the engine. I paid big bucks last year to get it repaired but it was well worth it.
If you opt for a four stroke, the Tohatsu is a nice engine in the 9.9 range. It has electric start though. You would probably need to change your transom bracket. If you can afford a heavy duty Garelic four stroke bracket, go for it. Myself, I no longer believe that you need a bracket rated for a four stroke as long as the bracket is heavy duty and rated for the weight of the engine. Now, some may disagree with me but I've talked to mechanics who tell me the same thing. I've even talked to Rudy about these heavy duty brackets which aren't rated for four strokes and he has told me that guys with O'Day 25s are using them with four stroke engines up to 15 hp. I say, use your own discretion. Just make sure your transom is beefed up inside.
If you opt for a four stroke, the Tohatsu is a nice engine in the 9.9 range. It has electric start though. You would probably need to change your transom bracket. If you can afford a heavy duty Garelic four stroke bracket, go for it. Myself, I no longer believe that you need a bracket rated for a four stroke as long as the bracket is heavy duty and rated for the weight of the engine. Now, some may disagree with me but I've talked to mechanics who tell me the same thing. I've even talked to Rudy about these heavy duty brackets which aren't rated for four strokes and he has told me that guys with O'Day 25s are using them with four stroke engines up to 15 hp. I say, use your own discretion. Just make sure your transom is beefed up inside.
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