moving the foresail up the mast.

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alllrite

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Sep 30, 2008
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Macgregor 26 Driveway
ya, great seaman title.
I have a 26s with a 150% non stolk genoa. It's a milar? sail with a furler. Anyway it sweeps the deck = too low = can't see much and it's hard on the sail and ineficient. So I was wondering what you real sailors think of moving it up the mast 10 inches so I can get it off the deck?
would that weaken the mast or spoil some other aspect of the boat's sail ballance?

is it legal?

thank you

Bruce
 
THECUSCUS

THECUSCUS

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Sep 25, 2008
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Macgregor & Island Packet VENTURE 25 & IP-38 NORTH EAST, MD
For optimum performance, you want the sail to touch the deck. It keeps the air from escaping under the sail and the deck helps to keep the air flowing. I raised my forestay about 3 feet so I can use J24 sails. You will need to make all your shrouds longer (as you will have to move them up also) as the uppers attach at the same point as the forestay. And moving the spreaders up keeps the angles correct. My 3/4 fractional rig is now a 7/8 rig. The V25 "J" is longer than a J24, so a 155 genoa for a J24 works out to be about a 130 on it. the real benefit here is being able to get nice, used racing sails at a fraction of their new cost.
 
justsomeguy

justsomeguy

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Feb 20, 2011
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Island Packet 35 Tucson, AZ/San Carlos, MX
Can you move it higher up on the foil of the furler? I like being able see well.
 
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Sumner

Sumner

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Jan 31, 2009
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Macgregor & Endeavour 26S and 37 Utah's Canyon Country


We moved our shrouds, good time to make new ones, and the forestay up when we put the furler sail on and the Johnson Lever. Didn't move the spreaders, but we aren't racers and are conservative sailors.

Ruth loves it as she can now see ahead and I like it also. It might hurt performance for a racer, but we can't really tell the difference and the Johnson Lever is great.

The details are here.....

http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/macgregor2/rigging-24.html

The original forestay is still there and it can be pinned....



... to the bracket above on the anchor roller, but if not used is back against the mast. At this point we haven't tried running two head sails at once. I also wanted it if we ever made or bought a storm jib. We could hank it on,

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timebandit

timebandit

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Jun 3, 2004
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Macgregor 25 So. Cal.
If all you want to do is add a pendent at the tack to hoist the sail all the way up the forestay then have at it.

You will most likely find more performance because the air is moving faster up high, less friction with the water.

You will however get a little more heeling for the same conditions.
 
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RussMT

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Apr 30, 2012
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Seems like a lot of compromise for visibility. How about having a window added to the genoa?
 
Stu Jackson

Stu Jackson

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Feb 26, 2004
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Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
Most "windows" added have two faults: they ain't big enough and they tend to reduce the strength of the sail. You may want to consider keeping the tack as high as possible. All the doomsayers talking about higher CE are missing the point. I'd rather heel a tad more than hit someone else. i LIKE being able to see forward. And I DO race, too. ::):)

Actually, six inches or a foot higher is NOT gonna make a big difference to your sail trim.
 
Justin_NSA

Justin_NSA

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Jul 7, 2004
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Hunter 30T Cheney, KS
Windows aren't recommended with furlers - just a bit of advice.

Our genoa rides pretty close to the deck. My crew watches the point of sail. I will also change direction slightly to see around the sail
 
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