although i'm not interested in racing, i am interested in being able to sail in all kinds of wind, including light airs. i also like going fast! so, i'm assuming a multipurpose sail , genoa, or spinnaker of some sort would come in handy. since these are expensive, i was thinking of starting with a used one and going from there. since this is a new design, isn't it ok for me to get started with one that was made for a substantially similar boat before i drop $600-$1,000 on a new sail? Thanks!!!!
more sail area for my '06 25
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Might be some in gear ads
There are some Hunter 23 sails for sail in the gear ads, One is a 150 genoa and should fit your boat pretty close might be a few inchs too short maybe 6 but nothing a additional piece of line to extend it wont fix! its b/o too so should come cheap! Good luck
There are some Hunter 23 sails for sail in the gear ads, One is a 150 genoa and should fit your boat pretty close might be a few inchs too short maybe 6 but nothing a additional piece of line to extend it wont fix! its b/o too so should come cheap! Good luck
You have a 2006 25 foot sailboat
and you want to buy a used sail? What are you taking about?? Something is not making sense. If you want to go fast get out of the Cheaspeake and sail somewhere with wind!
and you want to buy a used sail? What are you taking about?? Something is not making sense. If you want to go fast get out of the Cheaspeake and sail somewhere with wind!
Shoal draft?
Isn't that 25 a very shallow draft boat? If so you would be better served to get a down wind asymetrical chute instead of a bigger Genoa that wil ust lay you over on your side. None-the-less go on line to Bacon Sails assuming you have your rig measurements and you will probably find a good deal in the off season.
Isn't that 25 a very shallow draft boat? If so you would be better served to get a down wind asymetrical chute instead of a bigger Genoa that wil ust lay you over on your side. None-the-less go on line to Bacon Sails assuming you have your rig measurements and you will probably find a good deal in the off season.
There is a marked difference
between used and old. Old sails may be cheap but they are usually streched unable to attain forward effort and generating heel instead. Good used sails usually command a price close to new but discounted 10% to 20%. A 2006 working jib will outperform an old blown 150% Genoa. Learn to trim and get the most out of your sails and then consider perhaps an assymetrical chute to enhance downwind performance.
between used and old. Old sails may be cheap but they are usually streched unable to attain forward effort and generating heel instead. Good used sails usually command a price close to new but discounted 10% to 20%. A 2006 working jib will outperform an old blown 150% Genoa. Learn to trim and get the most out of your sails and then consider perhaps an assymetrical chute to enhance downwind performance.
Tweak what you have first.
Your pic shows the jib riding nearly 3' up the furler extrusion. pull that rascal down closer to the deck and maybe add a traveler track and car. Make sure you've done all you can to enhance what you've already got. I sailed a 240 for a couple years and tweaked it for all it was worth including new hardware and a new asy spin and dousing chute (that I hardly ever used). After getting used to the nuances of the 240 I traded up to a newer 260 and the process started over again. That 25's a fine boat but don't be too quick to add used sails that arent cut just for your boats dimensions. Benny's got it right. Tweak what you have and only then add a new chute cut for your boat. Good luck. Michael 2004 H260 s/v "Plan B"
Your pic shows the jib riding nearly 3' up the furler extrusion. pull that rascal down closer to the deck and maybe add a traveler track and car. Make sure you've done all you can to enhance what you've already got. I sailed a 240 for a couple years and tweaked it for all it was worth including new hardware and a new asy spin and dousing chute (that I hardly ever used). After getting used to the nuances of the 240 I traded up to a newer 260 and the process started over again. That 25's a fine boat but don't be too quick to add used sails that arent cut just for your boats dimensions. Benny's got it right. Tweak what you have and only then add a new chute cut for your boat. Good luck. Michael 2004 H260 s/v "Plan B"
Foresail shape
The comment on the tack of that jib being so high has me thinking... We are just taking delivery on our 23.5 in the next week or so & won't be sailing her before next June, but looking at pix of 23.5's in action I have wondered about how the lifelines screw up the foil shape along the foot if you're anything other than close-hauled. Doesn't that hurt performance? Has anyone remediated it?
The comment on the tack of that jib being so high has me thinking... We are just taking delivery on our 23.5 in the next week or so & won't be sailing her before next June, but looking at pix of 23.5's in action I have wondered about how the lifelines screw up the foil shape along the foot if you're anything other than close-hauled. Doesn't that hurt performance? Has anyone remediated it?
Headsail Shapes
The original poster said he wasn't interested in racing, so the relative diference in performance, particularly with a roller furling sail probably isn't measureable. IF you were interested in racing, particularly in a One Design fleet, there would still be diferences in the possible cut of the headsails (high clew, deck sweeper, etc)from various sailmakers and that could be measurable in a race. Your question about the shape of the headsail tack area where it goes out over the life lines has been addressed in some older boats by taking the life line off the pulpit and fastening it down to the deck, thus creating a 'slot' where the luff of the sail is not hampered by the lifelines or bow pulpit. I don't know if that would work on a 23.5 or evan mean anything in speed. If you were interested in racing, and getting the best sails to do so, I'd get the max sized Mylar /Dacron laminate Genoa in a deck sweeper racing cut on a 'Tuff Luff' headfoil, and get a loose footed racing cut mainsail with full top batten and the remaing battens in IOR length and maximum roach. You would first want to max out the boat's potential As Soling 42 said, possibly an upgraded traveler , cunningham, boom vang, backstay adjuster, etc and most certainly a smooth faired in and wetsanded racing bottom / keel finish. Despite all that, the shape of the sail on the boat in the picture seems fine for cruising, for good visability and for less wear & tear on the pulpit and life lines.
The original poster said he wasn't interested in racing, so the relative diference in performance, particularly with a roller furling sail probably isn't measureable. IF you were interested in racing, particularly in a One Design fleet, there would still be diferences in the possible cut of the headsails (high clew, deck sweeper, etc)from various sailmakers and that could be measurable in a race. Your question about the shape of the headsail tack area where it goes out over the life lines has been addressed in some older boats by taking the life line off the pulpit and fastening it down to the deck, thus creating a 'slot' where the luff of the sail is not hampered by the lifelines or bow pulpit. I don't know if that would work on a 23.5 or evan mean anything in speed. If you were interested in racing, and getting the best sails to do so, I'd get the max sized Mylar /Dacron laminate Genoa in a deck sweeper racing cut on a 'Tuff Luff' headfoil, and get a loose footed racing cut mainsail with full top batten and the remaing battens in IOR length and maximum roach. You would first want to max out the boat's potential As Soling 42 said, possibly an upgraded traveler , cunningham, boom vang, backstay adjuster, etc and most certainly a smooth faired in and wetsanded racing bottom / keel finish. Despite all that, the shape of the sail on the boat in the picture seems fine for cruising, for good visability and for less wear & tear on the pulpit and life lines.
Soling42 makes an interesting point TCA
I have a 23.5, which has the same aspect as his old 240. My biggest problem is that I sail on Lake Keowee and it is nothing but light air. I have tweaked the boat as much as I can, which got me 1/2 knot. But I think in MY situation, an Asym Spinnaker in a chute will work the best. And actually a new one from the same guy Soling42 bought his from was less than $600 new, with a chute. Someone also mentioned a Genoa, and I looked at that as well, but the lifelines get in the way, and you would have to add tracks. It sure is fun to play with them though!
I have a 23.5, which has the same aspect as his old 240. My biggest problem is that I sail on Lake Keowee and it is nothing but light air. I have tweaked the boat as much as I can, which got me 1/2 knot. But I think in MY situation, an Asym Spinnaker in a chute will work the best. And actually a new one from the same guy Soling42 bought his from was less than $600 new, with a chute. Someone also mentioned a Genoa, and I looked at that as well, but the lifelines get in the way, and you would have to add tracks. It sure is fun to play with them though!
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