My '97 Passage 42 was delivered to the original owner with a generator installed by mistake, he refused it and Hunter took it out. So, the board is all wired for a generator, but all applicable switches are covered. So, here's the question (which, by the way, may not be related to the generator wiring at all). At the battery/inverter control panel, I have the engine battery switch, 2 on/off switches, and the inverter selector. When I turn off switch #2, the indicator led on the panel for "DC source 2" goes out, all dc is shut down. But, when I turn off switch #1, the LED for DC source #1 goes out, but nothing changes. Also, the corresponding panel switch for DC source #1 is covered. What the hell does this switch #1 on the battery panel do?
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Brad Cavedo
Good Question
We have a 1997 P42 with a generator. My understanding is that the DC source 1 and 2 switch are meaningless IF your battery selection switch is on ALL. You should leave it on ALL and use either DC source 1 or 2 because the energy use is so great on this boat that you need all the reserve power available all the time. We have to run the generator an your in moring and in evening just to keep up. You need a generator installed ASAP, unless you tie up all the time. We anchor. If you use the battery selection switch for 1 or 2, I have no idea what that means for the DC selections switches. Sorry.
We have a 1997 P42 with a generator. My understanding is that the DC source 1 and 2 switch are meaningless IF your battery selection switch is on ALL. You should leave it on ALL and use either DC source 1 or 2 because the energy use is so great on this boat that you need all the reserve power available all the time. We have to run the generator an your in moring and in evening just to keep up. You need a generator installed ASAP, unless you tie up all the time. We anchor. If you use the battery selection switch for 1 or 2, I have no idea what that means for the DC selections switches. Sorry.
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bill walton
battery switches
Well I used to know but I just leave both on and the inv. selector switch on both. the selector switch needs to be on both for the charger to charge both just like it needs to be on both for the inverter to draw on both. I installed a heart pathmaker as the isolation device betweenthe house bank and the starter battery. I provides 100% isolation but can be overridden to get the house bank connected to the starter if necessary. The wiring system on the 97, at least, is more closely related to the 450. I got a diagram from Hunter because it was different from that shown in the owners manual. All those switches alow one to draw from, and charge, only one house battery. I have also installed a heart link 2000 monitor and control. You can more closely monitor your batteries in order to not go below 50% capacity. You're luck in a way that you have no genset but do have the wiring. If I could lose my Kohler, I'd install one of the newer, smaller, lighter,quieter enclosed sets. Down here a genset and A/C is a must IMO for anchoring during the Summer. Email me your fax number and I'll fax you a stylized version of the diagram. I've lost the soft copy I once had, although if you can wait I'll scan the diagram and email a jpeg to you, send youremail address. I'll be home next Sat and then be leaving for a holiday sail for 10 days.
Well I used to know but I just leave both on and the inv. selector switch on both. the selector switch needs to be on both for the charger to charge both just like it needs to be on both for the inverter to draw on both. I installed a heart pathmaker as the isolation device betweenthe house bank and the starter battery. I provides 100% isolation but can be overridden to get the house bank connected to the starter if necessary. The wiring system on the 97, at least, is more closely related to the 450. I got a diagram from Hunter because it was different from that shown in the owners manual. All those switches alow one to draw from, and charge, only one house battery. I have also installed a heart link 2000 monitor and control. You can more closely monitor your batteries in order to not go below 50% capacity. You're luck in a way that you have no genset but do have the wiring. If I could lose my Kohler, I'd install one of the newer, smaller, lighter,quieter enclosed sets. Down here a genset and A/C is a must IMO for anchoring during the Summer. Email me your fax number and I'll fax you a stylized version of the diagram. I've lost the soft copy I once had, although if you can wait I'll scan the diagram and email a jpeg to you, send youremail address. I'll be home next Sat and then be leaving for a holiday sail for 10 days.
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bill walton
Long winded sw function Review
I have reviewed the diagram and believe the switches function as follows: The rotary selector switch allows the inv/chg access to one or both of your 8D batteries. I always leave mine on both but have a link2000 to monitor use. The two lever switches control which 8D feeds across to your panel. They are used allow you to restrict the 12V needs to one or both of the 8Ds. On my boat the switches and battery positive for each 8d are on the same respective lug on the rotary selector. The switch arrangement could concievably allow one to draw 12V for the 12V needs from one 8D and the inverter to draw on the other 8D for 110V needs. I'm always afraid I might forget to turn the switch back to both for charging so I have it on both and the switches bth on and monitor the usage to know when to turn on the genset. All this was explained by the Hunter tech support and the dealer during and after commissioning.
I have reviewed the diagram and believe the switches function as follows: The rotary selector switch allows the inv/chg access to one or both of your 8D batteries. I always leave mine on both but have a link2000 to monitor use. The two lever switches control which 8D feeds across to your panel. They are used allow you to restrict the 12V needs to one or both of the 8Ds. On my boat the switches and battery positive for each 8d are on the same respective lug on the rotary selector. The switch arrangement could concievably allow one to draw 12V for the 12V needs from one 8D and the inverter to draw on the other 8D for 110V needs. I'm always afraid I might forget to turn the switch back to both for charging so I have it on both and the switches bth on and monitor the usage to know when to turn on the genset. All this was explained by the Hunter tech support and the dealer during and after commissioning.
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Allan Robertson
Looking for Bill Walton
Hi Bill, Looked at your diagram and my boat (420) is wired almost the same except the alt. output is on the #2 batt lug. This does not make sense and I want to move it to the feeder post onr the inverter selector panel, the same post that has the Hart Inv/Charger wire on it. Will this cause a problem? I see your alt. is wired to the feeder on the start bat. How does the solenoid bypass the isolator to charge Batt 1/2 ? My email is nalla@earthlink.net. I do not have yours, otherwise I would have written directly to you. Anybody else have any ideas. regards--Allan.
Hi Bill, Looked at your diagram and my boat (420) is wired almost the same except the alt. output is on the #2 batt lug. This does not make sense and I want to move it to the feeder post onr the inverter selector panel, the same post that has the Hart Inv/Charger wire on it. Will this cause a problem? I see your alt. is wired to the feeder on the start bat. How does the solenoid bypass the isolator to charge Batt 1/2 ? My email is nalla@earthlink.net. I do not have yours, otherwise I would have written directly to you. Anybody else have any ideas. regards--Allan.
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george kornreich
Panel switches, link 200 issues
Seems the #1 and #2 panel switches and the corresponding #1 and #2 engine panel switches are confusing to everyone... I thought that I was dense! Seems that you can feed the panel by either 1 or 2 (or is it A and B... I gotta look)., and that it makes little difference if the panel 1 or 2 switch is on, but only one can be on at a time. I guess you can feed the panel from only 1 or 2 rather than both if you only turn on one switch at the engine panel, but this would ONLY work this way if the inverter select switch was not set to both, as by setting it to both, it essentially puts both 8D's in parallel with each other. Regarding the Heart Link 2000, I wired it so that it reads one 8D as Bank 1 and the other as Bank 2, to monitor the state of each battery seperately, but again, this only works IF the inverter switch is NOT in the "both" position. Otherwise the Link 2000 is also getting a parallel feed from both batteries, and the voltage reading will be the result of both batteries, and is the same regardless of which Bank is selected on the Link 2000. Wierdness!
Seems the #1 and #2 panel switches and the corresponding #1 and #2 engine panel switches are confusing to everyone... I thought that I was dense! Seems that you can feed the panel by either 1 or 2 (or is it A and B... I gotta look)., and that it makes little difference if the panel 1 or 2 switch is on, but only one can be on at a time. I guess you can feed the panel from only 1 or 2 rather than both if you only turn on one switch at the engine panel, but this would ONLY work this way if the inverter select switch was not set to both, as by setting it to both, it essentially puts both 8D's in parallel with each other. Regarding the Heart Link 2000, I wired it so that it reads one 8D as Bank 1 and the other as Bank 2, to monitor the state of each battery seperately, but again, this only works IF the inverter switch is NOT in the "both" position. Otherwise the Link 2000 is also getting a parallel feed from both batteries, and the voltage reading will be the result of both batteries, and is the same regardless of which Bank is selected on the Link 2000. Wierdness!
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george kornreich
Bill Walton
Bill, Would you mind also emailing me a copy of your electrical drawing that you mentioned on the HOW? I have a 430, and the drawings in the manual are too sketchy to make much sense of. Also, do you understand why the engine will crank (obviously from the house batteries) even if the starting battery is removed? Thanks George Kornreich georgek2@earthlink.net
Bill, Would you mind also emailing me a copy of your electrical drawing that you mentioned on the HOW? I have a 430, and the drawings in the manual are too sketchy to make much sense of. Also, do you understand why the engine will crank (obviously from the house batteries) even if the starting battery is removed? Thanks George Kornreich georgek2@earthlink.net
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bill walton
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