I have two Lemar 16 ST's and two Lewmar 40 ST's on my 1983 H34. They need to be cleaned and serviced. Any suggestions? Thanks.
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A year or so ago , cruising world or sail mag had a nice series on doing this , you might check at the library usi;ng their search of print to find them, just a thought, I am sure there would be a book with same info, good Luck Mike B
A year or so ago , cruising world or sail mag had a nice series on doing this , you might check at the library usi;ng their search of print to find them, just a thought, I am sure there would be a book with same info, good Luck Mike B
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servicing lewmar winches
you can get alot of info from there web site, you can even down load the manuals for the winchs you have (www.lewmar.com)
you can get alot of info from there web site, you can even down load the manuals for the winchs you have (www.lewmar.com)
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Rob R.
Do it Yourself - its fun!
Hi Joe - I just did this on my Catalina 27 last year and boy did it make a difference. I also posted the teardown instructions with photos in the photo forum section, but I don't see them there anymore. You might be able to check with Phil H, and see if he has it backed up anywhere. If not, I can send pictures. In short, you can approach it one of two ways - either remove the winches from the boat and take them home (my preference) or service them on the boat. Either way, you will start be removing the retainer c-rings (small metallic clips that look like key rings, or metal "C's")from the top of the winch. They should be located on the perimeter of the winch socket, or the port into which you place the winch handle. Once you remove the clip, the drum (outer section of the winch) can be lifted - but be careful! The many parts of the winches innards can spill out, or even eject themselves, as certain parts are under load. If you are doing this on the boat, many people recommend placing a box around the winch to keep parts from going overboard - and believe me, they will. If you have furter questions, you can e-mail me at communicatins@austin.rr.com Best Regards, Rob
Hi Joe - I just did this on my Catalina 27 last year and boy did it make a difference. I also posted the teardown instructions with photos in the photo forum section, but I don't see them there anymore. You might be able to check with Phil H, and see if he has it backed up anywhere. If not, I can send pictures. In short, you can approach it one of two ways - either remove the winches from the boat and take them home (my preference) or service them on the boat. Either way, you will start be removing the retainer c-rings (small metallic clips that look like key rings, or metal "C's")from the top of the winch. They should be located on the perimeter of the winch socket, or the port into which you place the winch handle. Once you remove the clip, the drum (outer section of the winch) can be lifted - but be careful! The many parts of the winches innards can spill out, or even eject themselves, as certain parts are under load. If you are doing this on the boat, many people recommend placing a box around the winch to keep parts from going overboard - and believe me, they will. If you have furter questions, you can e-mail me at communicatins@austin.rr.com Best Regards, Rob
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Carl and Jule
Lewmar Winch Grease
Hi, Joe. The only service kit that you may need is Lewmar winch grease, available at WM. We agree with Rob; just do it yourself. I really is quite straightforward. We did the three 30ST's and one 40ST on our boat this fall. The prospect of pulling a winch apart with all those bearings and gears is a bit intimidating the first time, but we found that it is really much easier than we feared. Download the directions from Lewmar's website (you will need the Acrobat reader); they are quite thorough. More than likely, grease is all that you will need. Other than grease, the most likely replacement needs are the pawls or the pawl springs, but you won't know until you have the winch all apart. Again, the Lewmar directions lay this all out for you in very clear detail. We did the job on the boat with the winches in place. We HIGHLY recommend using a box with a hole placed around the winch to catch pieces that you drop. We would have had a couple of pieces in the drink if we hadn't done that. Also be organized; have an old towel or something to lay out the pieces in order as you disassemble, then just put them back on in reverse order. Good luck! Carl and Jule s/v 'Syzygy'
Hi, Joe. The only service kit that you may need is Lewmar winch grease, available at WM. We agree with Rob; just do it yourself. I really is quite straightforward. We did the three 30ST's and one 40ST on our boat this fall. The prospect of pulling a winch apart with all those bearings and gears is a bit intimidating the first time, but we found that it is really much easier than we feared. Download the directions from Lewmar's website (you will need the Acrobat reader); they are quite thorough. More than likely, grease is all that you will need. Other than grease, the most likely replacement needs are the pawls or the pawl springs, but you won't know until you have the winch all apart. Again, the Lewmar directions lay this all out for you in very clear detail. We did the job on the boat with the winches in place. We HIGHLY recommend using a box with a hole placed around the winch to catch pieces that you drop. We would have had a couple of pieces in the drink if we hadn't done that. Also be organized; have an old towel or something to lay out the pieces in order as you disassemble, then just put them back on in reverse order. Good luck! Carl and Jule s/v 'Syzygy'
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Rob
Yes Virginia, there is a kit
West Marine carries them in the rigging aisle - just make sure you are using one that fits your winch - by model number. If they don't have the right one, contact Lewmar. Using the wrong replacement pawl can result in catastrauphic failire - not to mention a winch handle uwinding at bone breaking speeds!
West Marine carries them in the rigging aisle - just make sure you are using one that fits your winch - by model number. If they don't have the right one, contact Lewmar. Using the wrong replacement pawl can result in catastrauphic failire - not to mention a winch handle uwinding at bone breaking speeds!
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Tim S.
Winches
You've gotten alot of great responses so far. If on the boat, the box is definately a good idea, but cut a hole in the bottom to match the dia. of the winch this will help alot. What nobody addressed to this point, is the most important part of servicing winches-CLEANING. Some people like to use Diesel fuel, I prefer mineral spirits, it cleans the parts as well, put is easier to clean up and doesn't smell as bad and won't stain like diesel. You will need a Bucket or Dishpan(prefered)and a small paint brush for cleaning the parts especially the roller bearings. And lots of paper towels or rags on hand. You may want to catalog or atleast count the parts when you put them in the pan to soak. That way you will make sure that the baby doesn't go out with the bath water. This is very important, do not do both winches at once!!! One at a time will keep parts from getting mixed, and you will have the other to use as a guide should you get stumped putting it back together. After mineral spirits, dish soap and water will remove the mineral spirits, rinse the parts well with water and dry them before reassembly. White Lithium for the shafts and gears, light machine oil(3 in 1) for the pawls, and a combination of the two for the roller bearings. Don't be squimish, get your hands on the parts and get them lubed. A small parts brush will help get the grease into the gear teeth. Then go sailing, nothing is nicer than using a well maintained winch. Take it from an old IOR boat winch "Grinder".
You've gotten alot of great responses so far. If on the boat, the box is definately a good idea, but cut a hole in the bottom to match the dia. of the winch this will help alot. What nobody addressed to this point, is the most important part of servicing winches-CLEANING. Some people like to use Diesel fuel, I prefer mineral spirits, it cleans the parts as well, put is easier to clean up and doesn't smell as bad and won't stain like diesel. You will need a Bucket or Dishpan(prefered)and a small paint brush for cleaning the parts especially the roller bearings. And lots of paper towels or rags on hand. You may want to catalog or atleast count the parts when you put them in the pan to soak. That way you will make sure that the baby doesn't go out with the bath water. This is very important, do not do both winches at once!!! One at a time will keep parts from getting mixed, and you will have the other to use as a guide should you get stumped putting it back together. After mineral spirits, dish soap and water will remove the mineral spirits, rinse the parts well with water and dry them before reassembly. White Lithium for the shafts and gears, light machine oil(3 in 1) for the pawls, and a combination of the two for the roller bearings. Don't be squimish, get your hands on the parts and get them lubed. A small parts brush will help get the grease into the gear teeth. Then go sailing, nothing is nicer than using a well maintained winch. Take it from an old IOR boat winch "Grinder".
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