That's it. I've had enough with the oem mainsheet traveler on my 1982 Hunter 33. I love the boat, but hate the placement of mainsheet traveler in the companionway. The guys at Garhauer Marine (1082 West Ninth Street, Upland, CA 91786 (909)985-9993)helped me design a raised stainless steel mid boom - cabin roof mainsheet traveler system. The unit will be installed on the cabin roof i/f/o the companionway way sliding hatch. End to end of the arches, the unit measures 60". I will keep you all informed when I install it. Adam B. Feder S/Y "Knot Guilty"
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How much did it cost?
Adam: How much did the traveler end up costing? Can you post any pictures of the setup?
Adam: How much did the traveler end up costing? Can you post any pictures of the setup?
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Sam Lust
33 Mid boom Garhauer.
Mine cost $450 from Garhauer: recirculating ball car, 60" or so very substantial track, sheaves for 6:1 purchase on car controls, and 5" polished stainless risers. I'm very happy with the setup considering it was about 1/3 to 1/4 the cost of a comparable setup from a big name maker. Garhaure orriginaly made this up as a kit for the Catalina 30. Installation was fairly straight forward, requiring onlr 12 holes through the coachroof. However I took the installation one step further by leading the car control lines down along the side deck to the cockpit coaming at the wheel. I adjust my traveler myself from the wheel. (Lazy is my middle name!) It's great for fine control or for when things get a little hairy and I need to drop the sail to leeward in a hurry. The down side is that it takes serious power to haul in the mian in a breeze. I have my main sheet routed back to the wheel along with the traveler car control lines which adds a bit of sheave friction, and have an 8:1 purchase on the main. If I could figure out where to put a winch for the main back by the wheel I might do it. I can come up with pictures if anyone's interested, or if you want, come on down to Forked River and take a look at it. For what it's worth, all the big assemblies I've installed; traveler, 11 foot long genoa tracks with recirculating ball cars with controls also lead to the wheel, solid vang and lots of pulleys are all Garhauer. While sometimes a little slow they are great to deal with and will do wonderful custom stuff you couldn't possibly get from the big names at any price, and normally an no extra charge! samlust@monmouth.com H33 TRINKET
Mine cost $450 from Garhauer: recirculating ball car, 60" or so very substantial track, sheaves for 6:1 purchase on car controls, and 5" polished stainless risers. I'm very happy with the setup considering it was about 1/3 to 1/4 the cost of a comparable setup from a big name maker. Garhaure orriginaly made this up as a kit for the Catalina 30. Installation was fairly straight forward, requiring onlr 12 holes through the coachroof. However I took the installation one step further by leading the car control lines down along the side deck to the cockpit coaming at the wheel. I adjust my traveler myself from the wheel. (Lazy is my middle name!) It's great for fine control or for when things get a little hairy and I need to drop the sail to leeward in a hurry. The down side is that it takes serious power to haul in the mian in a breeze. I have my main sheet routed back to the wheel along with the traveler car control lines which adds a bit of sheave friction, and have an 8:1 purchase on the main. If I could figure out where to put a winch for the main back by the wheel I might do it. I can come up with pictures if anyone's interested, or if you want, come on down to Forked River and take a look at it. For what it's worth, all the big assemblies I've installed; traveler, 11 foot long genoa tracks with recirculating ball cars with controls also lead to the wheel, solid vang and lots of pulleys are all Garhauer. While sometimes a little slow they are great to deal with and will do wonderful custom stuff you couldn't possibly get from the big names at any price, and normally an no extra charge! samlust@monmouth.com H33 TRINKET
Thanks Sam.
Sam: Thanks for the info. You mentioned that you could provide photo. Please post them on the Photo Forum. This subject comes up all of the time.
Sam: Thanks for the info. You mentioned that you could provide photo. Please post them on the Photo Forum. This subject comes up all of the time.
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Ed Schenck
Curious.
This topic comes up quite often here since all the early models had the traveller on the bridgedeck. My sailing style almost demands that it be end-boom. And I wonder why? I even installed new Garhauer fiddles with a cam cleat so that I could have control right at the helm. I did not like the mainsheet going forward under the boom and back to a winch on the cabin roof. Is it because of the difference in winds between Lake Erie and other places? When the mainsheet was cleated off at the winch I was always heading up in the gusts to dump the air. Now I set the autohelm and sit forward with a hand on the sheet. I'm not a whimp that has to let the main go just because the rail's under water. But I do like to keep the first mate in her chair. I also like to watch the telltales and tweak the main. I'd sure miss that lack of control with a mid-boom setup.
This topic comes up quite often here since all the early models had the traveller on the bridgedeck. My sailing style almost demands that it be end-boom. And I wonder why? I even installed new Garhauer fiddles with a cam cleat so that I could have control right at the helm. I did not like the mainsheet going forward under the boom and back to a winch on the cabin roof. Is it because of the difference in winds between Lake Erie and other places? When the mainsheet was cleated off at the winch I was always heading up in the gusts to dump the air. Now I set the autohelm and sit forward with a hand on the sheet. I'm not a whimp that has to let the main go just because the rail's under water. But I do like to keep the first mate in her chair. I also like to watch the telltales and tweak the main. I'd sure miss that lack of control with a mid-boom setup.
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chet pruszynski
mainsheet ratio?
Ed you have the 37 if i am right, i am considering the move like you did and was wondering did you use a 4:1, 6:1, 7:1 and who's blocks , garhauer? send pictures to keladi@mpinet.net if you can. thanks chet p
Ed you have the 37 if i am right, i am considering the move like you did and was wondering did you use a 4:1, 6:1, 7:1 and who's blocks , garhauer? send pictures to keladi@mpinet.net if you can. thanks chet p
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Ed Schenck
Chet, it's 4:1 now, but. . .
I have a plan for "fine tuning". And it is Garhauer, 40-06 I think. Both with swivels and beckets, one with cam cleat. But the Yamaha 36 next to me has an interesting setup, same bridgedeck traveller. "Inside" the 4:1, attached to the beckets, is another set of smaller blocks, one with a cam cleat. You can do this with one continuous mainsheet but don't ask me to describe it. For "fine tuning" you use the "inside" sheet(6:1), otherwise the mainsheet(4:1). You could get even "finer" by using small doubles for the inside blocks. As for power I find 4:1 to be adequate for end-boom. It's easy to put the sheet on a jib winch but I have never had to.
I have a plan for "fine tuning". And it is Garhauer, 40-06 I think. Both with swivels and beckets, one with cam cleat. But the Yamaha 36 next to me has an interesting setup, same bridgedeck traveller. "Inside" the 4:1, attached to the beckets, is another set of smaller blocks, one with a cam cleat. You can do this with one continuous mainsheet but don't ask me to describe it. For "fine tuning" you use the "inside" sheet(6:1), otherwise the mainsheet(4:1). You could get even "finer" by using small doubles for the inside blocks. As for power I find 4:1 to be adequate for end-boom. It's easy to put the sheet on a jib winch but I have never had to.
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Joe Gooch
Why Change a Good Thing
Hi Adam, Why change a good thing??? I prefer my travelerl where it is; I leavel it in the middle position and find it gives a handhold to go up and down the companionway. Also, the companionway has a bit of an entrance that makes it very handy. Now, on my 27 I preferred the cabin top traveler. Different strokes. Good Luck!!! Joe
Hi Adam, Why change a good thing??? I prefer my travelerl where it is; I leavel it in the middle position and find it gives a handhold to go up and down the companionway. Also, the companionway has a bit of an entrance that makes it very handy. Now, on my 27 I preferred the cabin top traveler. Different strokes. Good Luck!!! Joe
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David Undewood
Adam, get JC ll in on this discussion...
I also thought about it too, but considering where it would have to mount in order to get to the position of leverage it would need in order not to stress the boom, I decided there was alot more to lose than to gain. I also made a dodger and found that in order for the dodger to be in the best position, a mid boom traveler would interfer with the deck layout which includes my dodger. Anyway, if you go for it, please post images in the photo forum so we can see how it turned out. Good luck and good winds! David "Freebird" 1982 Hunter 33
I also thought about it too, but considering where it would have to mount in order to get to the position of leverage it would need in order not to stress the boom, I decided there was alot more to lose than to gain. I also made a dodger and found that in order for the dodger to be in the best position, a mid boom traveler would interfer with the deck layout which includes my dodger. Anyway, if you go for it, please post images in the photo forum so we can see how it turned out. Good luck and good winds! David "Freebird" 1982 Hunter 33
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