Made it under the bridge

Jun 14, 2010
307
Seafarer 29 Oologah, OK
The lake my boat is on, Ft. Gibson lake near Wagoner, Oklahoma, has a highway bridge that effectively divides the lake in half. They just completed a new span and tore down the old one.

I wasn't sure of the clearance under the old bridge, but deduced that it was about 32' above the "normal" elevation (the bottom of the flood pool, 554' above MSL) from the fact that there was about 4' clearance when the lake level was at almost 28' above normal last May. My masthead height is a shade over 35' above LWL so I was effectively cut off from the northern half of the lake.

The new span completed last month was about 8' higher than the old one so I figured the clearance would be about 40' or enough for me to get under.

On Sunday the lake was at 554.9' so I thought I'd have about 4' to spare, but I wasn't dead certain. Decided that I was confident enough to give it a shot, though, so I came in at a very shallow angle on a broad reach, barely any wind so I was moving at less than 2 kts - edged in closer and closer to the middle where the bridge is at its highest, figuring I could shear off easily if it touched, but I slid by underneath. As you all know, looking up from below it looks like you'll never make it when in fact there is still room.

Coming back from spending most of the day on the north side, I confidently sailed right under with a couple of speedboats behind me. They were looking at me like I was nuts heading straight at the bridge.

So now I have twice the lake! (As long as the water level as at 555' or less and not rising). I know exactly where 555' is on the bridge piers, so I can always tell if I have room.
 
May 12, 2004
1,505
Hunter Cherubini 30 New Port Richey
After going under hundreds of bridges my knees still get weak looking up even if I know I have twenty feet or more clearance. I just can't help not looking up. Maybe it's the rush.
 
Jul 14, 2015
840
Catalina 30 Stillhouse Hollow Marina
On Sunday the lake was at 554.9' so I thought I'd have about 4' to spare, but I wasn't dead certain. Decided that I was confident enough to give it a shot, though, so I came in at a very shallow angle on a broad reach, barely any wind so I was moving at less than 2 kts - edged in closer and closer to the middle where the bridge is at its highest, figuring I could shear off easily if it touched, but I slid by underneath. As you all know, looking up from below it looks like you'll never make it when in fact there is still room.
You are braver than me. I would never attempt a first pass under sail. I would always make a first pass under power.
 
Jul 7, 2004
8,485
Hunter 30T Cheney, KS
Well that's pretty cool. You should write a thank you to whoever was responsible for the new bridge. All they probably get are complaints.

Back in the 70's, our Marine squadron went out on deployment with the USS Enterprise out of the San Francisco bay area. Some of us were on the flight deck as we were about to pass under the Golden Gate bridge. We didn't think the mast was going to make it. Then we saw that mast lower to the side and we passed under the bridge. Not sure if it was necessary, but someone wanted to be sure it didn't hit.
 
Jun 14, 2010
307
Seafarer 29 Oologah, OK
Well that's pretty cool. You should write a thank you to whoever was responsible for the new bridge. All they probably get are complaints.

Back in the 70's, our Marine squadron went out on deployment with the USS Enterprise out of the San Francisco bay area. Some of us were on the flight deck as we were about to pass under the Golden Gate bridge. We didn't think the mast was going to make it. Then we saw that mast lower to the side and we passed under the bridge. Not sure if it was necessary, but someone wanted to be sure it didn't hit.
You're right, I should. I guess the OK DOT would be the ones.

Wichita, eh? My mother's side of the family hails from thereabouts - Rosalia, to be exact, near El Dorado - you wouldn't be on El Dorado Lake by chance?
 

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Aug 18, 2015
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Currently Boatless Okinawa
And now we know what Pia SOUNDS like.:clap:
 
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Feb 21, 2008
413
Hunter 33 Metedeconk River
I wish I knew that this bridge clearance thing was common. When I picked up my new to me boat I plotted the course home with 826 waypoints to go 35 miles. Within the first mile of leaving there was a bridge to go under, and I knew that, and I checked the clearance 100 times to be sure. In addition, there was only one way in and out of the bay to the ocean and so I knew we could make it. We were good.
When approaching the bridge we turned around 3 times at the last minute because there was no way it looked like we were going to clear. I checked everything again and went for it. We cleared by about 5 feet but it sure does make you get the Depends ready.
 
Sep 30, 2013
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1988 Catalina 22 North Florida
My wife is totally paranoid about bridges. Pretty much the only aspect of sailing that freaks her out.

Once, we were sailing under a very busy bridge which had no speed limit and the area was infested with speed boats. We were right under the middle of the bridge when we totally lost the wind, turned sideways and started drifting back the way we came, right into the path of an oncoming tunnel-hull speedboat. The outboard took what seemed like about a hundred pulls to start, when it normally takes only one.

She's never been the same with bridges since. I'm not allowed to sail under them anymore, without the motor down and running. PLUS there's the "clearance anxiety" issue, but thank goodness I have no horror stories about that. Yet.
 

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SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
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CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
Justin. The antenna flop was because in the late 60's she sailed under the GG at high tide and wacked a couple of antennae causing no end of problems. My Dad was the Supply Officer who had to find replacements.
 

jssailem

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
23,114
CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
And now we know what Pia SOUNDS like.:clap:
Yes. And she sounds like she is at the helm. Perhaps a bit questioning of Jackdaw's plan because there is a reduction of engine rpm as they approach the mast grabbing bridge.
 
Jul 7, 2004
8,485
Hunter 30T Cheney, KS
Justin. The antenna flop was because in the late 60's she sailed under the GG at high tide and wacked a couple of antennae causing no end of problems. My Dad was the Supply Officer who had to find replacements.
Small world. I wondered if tide was a concern. We only deployed once with them. We were based out of MCAS El Toro in SO CAL
 
Jul 7, 2004
8,485
Hunter 30T Cheney, KS
You're right, I should. I guess the OK DOT would be the ones.

Wichita, eh? My mother's side of the family hails from thereabouts - Rosalia, to be exact, near El Dorado - you wouldn't be on El Dorado Lake by chance?
We sail on Cheney Lake west of Wichita. ElDorado has too many submerged trees for my liking.
 

jssailem

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
23,114
CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
Remember El Toro well. Had business with the commissary office there in the late 80's. After the event they paid more attention to tides and came up with what was called the "antenna flop" not sure but heard that was the sound they made as the ship tested the height of the bridge. Crew member said it stuck.
 
Nov 8, 2010
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Beneteau First 36.7 & 260 Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
Yes. And she sounds like she is at the helm. Perhaps a bit questioning of Jackdaw's plan because there is a reduction of engine rpm as they approach the mast grabbing bridge.
Backwards actually. She was filming. I knew we were OK but slowed down right at the edge to show here how it looked when you got close!
 
Feb 20, 2011
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Island Packet 35 Tucson, AZ/San Carlos, MX
The visual of that forestay moving towards the bridge was pretty danged suspenseful.
 
Oct 26, 2010
2,125
Hunter 40.5 Beaufort, SC
The Admiral has a whole new Living Room Suite thanks to her "keen ability" to keep me out of trouble with bridges. My air clearance is about 64.5 feet including the VHF antenna. When bringing the boat down from Annapolis to Beaufort we had stopped at the Alligator River Marina in NC. When we got underway I misread a chart and was headed for a bridge confident that it was at least 65 feet. As we approached the bridge my wife kept saying "we're not going to make it" over and over. To "humor" her I spun the wheel and aborted the transit under the bridge at the last minute (a few boat lengths before we went under the bridge). Upon a closer look the bridge was, as I remember it, a 56 foot or so bridge. The first words out of her mouth were "Looks like jewelery to me" and I agread without a hint of hesitation. She later decide the Living Room furniture was a better idea. I'm guessing I still made out like a bandit since she would have bought the furniture anyway. To this day she is on the bow when we go under a strange bridge reading the height boards (if they are there) and acting as my clearance watch.

However, unless you've got a much better eye than mine when you are approaching a bridge its very very hard to tell for sure, based on visual alone if you have enough clearance and the difference between say 60 feet and 65 feet of vertical clearance on a bridge. The perspective just isn't there and with a air clearance like mine there's a pucker facter every time I go through a bridge on the ICW. I get really nervous when a power boat decides to come through throwing a wake and bouncing me around when I'm under a bridge.

I have to go under a "new" nominal 65 ft bridge that they haven't put up height boards for yet to get to the ocean here in Beaufort SC. Based on local knowledge there are heights assumed for various locations along the boards on the channel. Sure hope they get around to putting up some real height boards at some point soon. I think the local knowledge is a little conservative but I sure don't want to be the one to confirm they are not. I haven't figured out a way to get accurate numbers other than pushing my luck a little at a time and waiting for my VHF antenna to act as a "feeler" which I am not inclinded to do.