Hi gang - just a reminder that if anyone is repowering and removing the combi, please let me know. I would like to buy your old shaft/control tube/prop and combi mechanism. I am in Toronto and will pay for shipping. Fair winds, Trevor (V2915)
Looking for spare Combi Parts
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Hi Trevor
Only thing I would say is that usually the control tubes are worn and this is the cause of cost problems but the rest of the combi mechanics and shaft should be fine.
Cheers
Steve BFrom: trevykins
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 3:12 AM
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AlbinVega] Looking for spare Combi Parts
Hi gang - just a reminder that if anyone is repowering and removing the combi, please let me know. I would like to buy your old shaft/control tube/prop and combi mechanism. I am in Toronto and will pay for shipping. Fair winds, Trevor (V2915)
Only thing I would say is that usually the control tubes are worn and this is the cause of cost problems but the rest of the combi mechanics and shaft should be fine.
Cheers
Steve BFrom: trevykins
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 3:12 AM
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AlbinVega] Looking for spare Combi Parts
Hi gang - just a reminder that if anyone is repowering and removing the combi, please let me know. I would like to buy your old shaft/control tube/prop and combi mechanism. I am in Toronto and will pay for shipping. Fair winds, Trevor (V2915)
Thanks Steve - my problem is that the ham-fisted boat yard crew lifted my boat with the slings around the prop. It still seems to shift smoothly but I am not convinced that it isn't bent. I want to take it apart, but would like to have a spare Combi look at before I take mine apart. Have you done any conversions lately? Trev
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
From: steve@...
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 08:52:41 +0100
Subject: Re: [AlbinVega] Looking for spare Combi Parts
Hi Trevor
Only thing I would say is that usually the control tubes are worn and this is the cause of cost problems but the rest of the combi mechanics and shaft should be fine.
Cheers
Steve B
From: trevykins
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 3:12 AM
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AlbinVega] Looking for spare Combi Parts
Hi gang - just a reminder that if anyone is repowering and removing the combi, please let me know. I would like to buy your old shaft/control tube/prop and combi mechanism. I am in Toronto and will pay for shipping. Fair winds, Trevor (V2915)
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
From: steve@...
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 08:52:41 +0100
Subject: Re: [AlbinVega] Looking for spare Combi Parts
Hi Trevor
Only thing I would say is that usually the control tubes are worn and this is the cause of cost problems but the rest of the combi mechanics and shaft should be fine.
Cheers
Steve B
From: trevykins
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 3:12 AM
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AlbinVega] Looking for spare Combi Parts
Hi gang - just a reminder that if anyone is repowering and removing the combi, please let me know. I would like to buy your old shaft/control tube/prop and combi mechanism. I am in Toronto and will pay for shipping. Fair winds, Trevor (V2915)
Hi Trev
There is a Vega changing to a Beta in the next few weeks but the boat is on
Madeira !
The Combi itself is very simple but getting it apart from the engine and
shaft is not at all simple!
I will have a dig around and see what bits I have and take some photos if
needed
Cheers
Steve B
There is a Vega changing to a Beta in the next few weeks but the boat is on
Madeira !
The Combi itself is very simple but getting it apart from the engine and
shaft is not at all simple!
I will have a dig around and see what bits I have and take some photos if
needed
Cheers
Steve B
Anything you can do will be appreciated, Steve. I am just finishing up a barrier system on the hull below the waterline. Very tedious to say the least. Hope to have back in the water for the end of July - just in time for the summer doldrums. I will see how the combi performs and get back to you . . . Fair winds.
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
From: steve@...
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 22:58:43 +0100
Subject: Re: [AlbinVega] Looking for spare Combi Parts
Hi Trev
There is a Vega changing to a Beta in the next few weeks but the boat is on
Madeira !
The Combi itself is very simple but getting it apart from the engine and
shaft is not at all simple!
I will have a dig around and see what bits I have and take some photos if
needed
Cheers
Steve B
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
From: steve@...
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 22:58:43 +0100
Subject: Re: [AlbinVega] Looking for spare Combi Parts
Hi Trev
There is a Vega changing to a Beta in the next few weeks but the boat is on
Madeira !
The Combi itself is very simple but getting it apart from the engine and
shaft is not at all simple!
I will have a dig around and see what bits I have and take some photos if
needed
Cheers
Steve B
Hi Trev,
Does your Vega have blisters? If not, why barrier coat?
I don't understand the idea of barrier coating a good sound hull, especially one that's been blister-free for almost 40 years. There was a lot of discussion on this on the Classic Plastic Forum some time back, and the forum founder had this to say, in part:
================================================================
"Barrier coats haven't been around long enough for anyone to know whether they do what they are advertised to do over the long haul; in fact, information suggests that they fall substantially short of expectations and, in some documented cases, have even created moisture/blister-related issues where none existed before application of the miracle cure. In any event, they were conceived initially as gelcoat replacement products, for use in cases where the gelcoat was removed for major repair processes. like some of the legitimate severe blister problems that have been documented in the past. In this sort of application, they have their place, in my opinion.
My skepticism on barrier coating comes from their now-widespread use as some form of "preventative" maintenance that is a good idea "just because". I am far from convinced of that.
I think we should prove the theories before worrying about the potential results. A local weatherman, when discussing potential snowfall in the long-term forecast, often quips, "we don't shovel potential". From this, I extrapolate the statement that boats don't fall apart on theory either."
==========================================================
The entire thread is at
Just my thoughts.
Peter
www.sintacha.com
Does your Vega have blisters? If not, why barrier coat?
I don't understand the idea of barrier coating a good sound hull, especially one that's been blister-free for almost 40 years. There was a lot of discussion on this on the Classic Plastic Forum some time back, and the forum founder had this to say, in part:
================================================================
"Barrier coats haven't been around long enough for anyone to know whether they do what they are advertised to do over the long haul; in fact, information suggests that they fall substantially short of expectations and, in some documented cases, have even created moisture/blister-related issues where none existed before application of the miracle cure. In any event, they were conceived initially as gelcoat replacement products, for use in cases where the gelcoat was removed for major repair processes. like some of the legitimate severe blister problems that have been documented in the past. In this sort of application, they have their place, in my opinion.
My skepticism on barrier coating comes from their now-widespread use as some form of "preventative" maintenance that is a good idea "just because". I am far from convinced of that.
I think we should prove the theories before worrying about the potential results. A local weatherman, when discussing potential snowfall in the long-term forecast, often quips, "we don't shovel potential". From this, I extrapolate the statement that boats don't fall apart on theory either."
==========================================================
The entire thread is at
Just my thoughts.
Peter
www.sintacha.com
I agree with Peter - if it isn't broken it doesn't need fixing. If your
hull hasn't had blisters in 40 years it probably never will.
The largest cause of blisters was after the first oil embargo in 1973 when
resin/gelcoat formulations were changed due to price and availability. A
boat built in Europe before 1973 should not have a blister issue. They are
cosmetic anyway in 99% of cases, unless you have a Valiant 40.
hull hasn't had blisters in 40 years it probably never will.
The largest cause of blisters was after the first oil embargo in 1973 when
resin/gelcoat formulations were changed due to price and availability. A
boat built in Europe before 1973 should not have a blister issue. They are
cosmetic anyway in 99% of cases, unless you have a Valiant 40.
As my beloved Mystic Rose has been out of the water for a couple of seasons the hull was completely dry, so I figured I would barrier coat the heck out of her while I had this rare opportunity. Besides I had to remove the previous antifouling system (which was only for fresh water) down to the gel. Which is another rare situation. I have barrier-coated several boats without any long-term (10 yrs plus) moisture-trapping problems, but it has to be done very slowly and patiently (five or six coats) and the hull has to be dry as a bone to start with. Get a quart and experiment with it on any non-porous surface and you will see how it sets up to create a very effective and durable moisture barrier. It's bullet proof. Old (even new) gelcoat is porous. I'm going to be taking my Vega on extended cruises during which she will be immersed for many months without a haul out. Good cheap insurance, I figure - though when you factor in the labour . . . maybe not so cheap. It also pays to keep the boat well ventilated. Cheers, T.
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
From: peter@...
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 06:09:03 +0000
Subject: [AlbinVega] Re: Barrier Coats
Hi Trev,
Does your Vega have blisters? If not, why barrier coat?
I don't understand the idea of barrier coating a good sound hull, especially one that's been blister-free for almost 40 years. There was a lot of discussion on this on the Classic Plastic Forum some time back, and the forum founder had this to say, in part:
================================================================
"Barrier coats haven't been around long enough for anyone to know whether they do what they are advertised to do over the long haul; in fact, information suggests that they fall substantially short of expectations and, in some documented cases, have even created moisture/blister-related issues where none existed before application of the miracle cure. In any event, they were conceived initially as gelcoat replacement products, for use in cases where the gelcoat was removed for major repair processes. like some of the legitimate severe blister problems that have been documented in the past. In this sort of application, they have their place, in my opinion.
My skepticism on barrier coating comes from their now-widespread use as some form of "preventative" maintenance that is a good idea "just because". I am far from convinced of that.
I think we should prove the theories before worrying about the potential results. A local weatherman, when discussing potential snowfall in the long-term forecast, often quips, "we don't shovel potential". From this, I extrapolate the statement that boats don't fall apart on theory either."
==========================================================
The entire thread is at
Just my thoughts.
Peter
www.sintacha.com
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
From: peter@...
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 06:09:03 +0000
Subject: [AlbinVega] Re: Barrier Coats
Hi Trev,
Does your Vega have blisters? If not, why barrier coat?
I don't understand the idea of barrier coating a good sound hull, especially one that's been blister-free for almost 40 years. There was a lot of discussion on this on the Classic Plastic Forum some time back, and the forum founder had this to say, in part:
================================================================
"Barrier coats haven't been around long enough for anyone to know whether they do what they are advertised to do over the long haul; in fact, information suggests that they fall substantially short of expectations and, in some documented cases, have even created moisture/blister-related issues where none existed before application of the miracle cure. In any event, they were conceived initially as gelcoat replacement products, for use in cases where the gelcoat was removed for major repair processes. like some of the legitimate severe blister problems that have been documented in the past. In this sort of application, they have their place, in my opinion.
My skepticism on barrier coating comes from their now-widespread use as some form of "preventative" maintenance that is a good idea "just because". I am far from convinced of that.
I think we should prove the theories before worrying about the potential results. A local weatherman, when discussing potential snowfall in the long-term forecast, often quips, "we don't shovel potential". From this, I extrapolate the statement that boats don't fall apart on theory either."
==========================================================
The entire thread is at
Just my thoughts.
Peter
www.sintacha.com
I think that a boat that is going to blister will do so faster if left in
the water for the long term. But here on the West Coast blistering is no
more common than in the East where the boats are hauled out for the winter
months. We never haul for the winters as they are mild and we can (and do)
sail year round here.
the water for the long term. But here on the West Coast blistering is no
more common than in the East where the boats are hauled out for the winter
months. We never haul for the winters as they are mild and we can (and do)
sail year round here.