Looking at Hunter 356... is this an area of concern or is this just cosmetic?
At bottom of steering pedestal.
At bottom of steering pedestal.
Looking at Hunter 356 ... could this be an issue?
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It's usually what's under the repair that is of concern. This looks like there was cosmetic damage and someone (That not quite PO yet guy) did a sloppy repair with gel coat. If there was a crack in the pedestal plate the gel coat would show it in about a half hour. And the surveyor says......? Hold some money back until that repair is sanded off and you can see what's under. Or negotiate a lower price based on the fact you may need to remove the pedestal to repair it. I miss my 356.
Agree with Shemandr, it looks cosmetic. Get a good fiberglass guy to advise on the repair cost and request a repair allowance from the seller as a condition of sale.
It depends on what is under that goop. Suspect something heavy was dropped on the foot of the pedestal and it may have cracked the metal. You can perform the stress test, Jerk the wheel and the pedestal and see if it is loose or solidly attached. In any instance tell the broker you want that goop sanded down to see what is underneath; I can't tell if it is Gel Coat or "Bondo". If there is crack, it can be repaired by welding but like Shemandr indicates it would need to be removed ($$).
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It seems pretty solid... I will get a fiberglass guy to take a look. Thanks for the advise.
I am still wondering tho even if there was no "bondo" or whatever that is there... is the hole that the screw is just set into (there are no threads, it just sits in the hole) ok there? Underneath is where the aft cabin is and we havent seen any visible damage. Maybe this is where there was an old autopilot or maybe wiring for something? In any case not sure if a hole there is damaging anything below that... where would water go?
In any case not sure if a hole there is damaging anything below that... where would water go?
Crawl under and have a look.
If you buy the boat you should know what is under there anyway.
gary
Crawl under and have a look.
If you buy the boat you should know what is under there anyway.
gary
There isn’t an extra hole there, so this was added. Also, the original 356 does not have the “teak” cockpit. That was also added. If you buy the boat, I’d fill that hole so,you won’t possibly get a leak into the bedroom below. Not certain, but if it leaks there, water could eventually get to the interior. Was probably put there for a wheel pilot type autopilot is my guess. Also, I would not take a chance in the covered up goop. If me, I would discount the price and replace the base with a new one, but I would not want to fix if I was buying myself a “new to me” boat.
The 356 is a great boat. 1165 days on ours since new in 2003. We like the galley design better than the later 36 models. For cruising, the deep freezer and refrigerator in the counter is superior and holds more than the newer front opening refrigerators with tiny freezers. Also we like the location of the garbage can in our model - easier to access. This is one of Hunter’s best boat designs.
The 356 is a great boat. 1165 days on ours since new in 2003. We like the galley design better than the later 36 models. For cruising, the deep freezer and refrigerator in the counter is superior and holds more than the newer front opening refrigerators with tiny freezers. Also we like the location of the garbage can in our model - easier to access. This is one of Hunter’s best boat designs.
The steering assembly was made by Whitlock. I’m going to the boat tomorrow. I’m pretty sure I have a manual that shows the steering system components. I’ll follow up with a post. In the meantime, you could Google Whitlock steering and probably find a contact in the Internet for them and call them up.
Looks like Lewmar has bought out Whitlock. If you Google Whitlock steering you get info about Cliff and then get a link to this new site. https://yachtsteeringservices.com/contact/
Under contacts, Cliff has email and phone numbers. He’s in England, but he should be able to either supply you with one, or point you to somebody in the US that has parts.
I’ll still look for my manual and see if I can locate the parts. If so, I will scan and send to you by PM. I think I would replace if me. You don’t want a leak where the pedestal comes through the floor.
Under contacts, Cliff has email and phone numbers. He’s in England, but he should be able to either supply you with one, or point you to somebody in the US that has parts.
I’ll still look for my manual and see if I can locate the parts. If so, I will scan and send to you by PM. I think I would replace if me. You don’t want a leak where the pedestal comes through the floor.
I think it would actually be okay from a leak perspective into the cabin (though obviously not ideal.) There is an "embossment" in the cockpit below the rear floor that holds the steering mechanism -- water drains from the cockpit into this area every time it rains. See the SOP from Hunter to see what I mean --
https://www.marlow-hunter.com/wp-co...6 Hunter ----/steering pedestal.pdf
They also have the diagram of the Whitlock/Lewmar steering system. Based on the diagram I'm wondering if the bottom plate was a custom Hunter part. Just conjecture on my part, though.
https://www.marlow-hunter.com/wp-content/export/Vendor-Manuals/Whitlock Cobra Steering.pdf
https://www.marlow-hunter.com/wp-co...6 Hunter ----/steering pedestal.pdf
They also have the diagram of the Whitlock/Lewmar steering system. Based on the diagram I'm wondering if the bottom plate was a custom Hunter part. Just conjecture on my part, though.
https://www.marlow-hunter.com/wp-content/export/Vendor-Manuals/Whitlock Cobra Steering.pdf
Without looking at my manual I couldn't Remember if the pedestal sits over that drained area or not. If it does, then no worry about a cabin leak. I checked my files and I have that same manual. The standard one is round. I’ll have to look at mine, but I think it is more rectangular like yours.
Not sure if you went ahead with the 356 but the pedestal sits over the drained area so it would not be an issue with leaking.
Here is a picture of mine at mid installation of running some wiring up the tubes for plotter / cockpit mike .
Sorry for the mess and clutter...
Jeff
Jeff
Here is a picture of mine at mid installation of running some wiring up the tubes for plotter / cockpit mike .
Sorry for the mess and clutter...
Jeff
Jeff
ditto what Jerry said - probably just cosmetic where someone ran some wires...
The 356 is a great boat! Under the steering cover the water just drains out, but you do have to make sure the cables - wiring on port and engine shift/throttle on starbd are well sealed
The 356 is a great boat! Under the steering cover the water just drains out, but you do have to make sure the cables - wiring on port and engine shift/throttle on starbd are well sealed
The pedastal leg on the port side is quite difficult to run additional wire up. I guess a previous owner has discovered this and taken a short cut. That cable run now appears to be redundant. Put in a rubber bung or a bit of gelcoat to make a better finish.