Looking at a O'Day 28... but...

Sep 24, 2013
36
looking looking Corpus Christi
It's a good looking boat, nice running diesel, bulk heads were replaced (good job too) overall the boat has been well maintained, owner is looking to "up size" is all.

It just doesn't look like any of the pictures of the O'Day 28... It does however look just like a 27. The layout inside iS the same as the 28. PLUS it has an inboard, were "all" the 27 powered by outboards?

Is there anything to look out for in these boats? It not looking like a picture online isn't enough to stop me, more curious about it is all.
 
Jun 2, 2004
1,944
Oday Day Sailer Wareham, MA
The 27 was offered in both outboard and inboard options. I think at first most were delivered as outboards, some were ordered with the optional inboard (Vire 7 hp at first, later Universal Atomic-4, both gas. Diesel might have been available for 1978, the last model year). I suspect many of those outboard powered 27s have since been updated with inboards, most probably with Diesel inboards, although a few were upgraded from outboard to the OMC Zephyr 2-stroke sail-drive.

As far as I know, ALL of the 28s came from the factory with inboards, original standard engine was the OMC Zephyr (15 hp), later the optional Diesel became standard (various engines and horsepower offered over the production run). Some owners have changed to outboard power on the 28, I suspect many of those were originally powered by the OMC Zephyr and when it wore out it was easier to glass over the hole in hte bottom and botl on an outboard bracket. Some of the OMC equipped boats were updated by owners with a Diesel inboard (sail-drive or shaft and strut).

Do you have a pic of the "mystery" boat? The 27 had two interior versions based on model year, early models 1973-75? had the galley along the starboard side of hte cabin with a settee along the port side. Later the galley was moved to the aft end of hte cabin in hte aft, starboard corner.

I'm not sure what would make a 28 look like a 27...... but if the 28 had the optional opening ports replacing all the typical fixed ports..... it could be confusing since those 28s (few were built that way) sure look "funny" compared to a typical 28... I once saw a 30 equipped hte same way, almost did not recognise it as an O'DAY 30.

Original (1979) cabin layout on the 28 was nearly a mirror-image of the 1977-78 models of the 27. Table appears bigger on the 28 and the galley was in the Port-side, aft corner.
 

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Sep 24, 2013
36
looking looking Corpus Christi
Sunbird22358 - Thanks for the response... I'm not why the difference, but the 28 should have (on each side) a fixed glass port and 2 opening. The one I'm looking at has 2 fixed ports and one opening... And to make matters worse, I found pictures of a 28 that has two (2) fixed glass ports and 2 opening ports.

Maybe it's a different factory thing? Or like you said, an "optional" build thing.

I called the owner and kinda pinned him down a bit on it, and he said he went through the same thing when he first bought it.

Any caveats of this boat... other than the saildrive... which it does not have.
 
May 17, 2004
5,682
Beneteau Oceanis 37 Havre de Grace
Do you know the model number or HIN? Those would help narrow it down. The later model 28's did not have bulkhead mounted chainplates, so if the bulkheads were replaced it's either an earlier model or not a 28. The earlier models didn't have Diesel engines so that suggests it is either repowered or a model late enough that it wouldn't have the bulkhead chainplates if it were a 28.
 
Sep 24, 2013
36
looking looking Corpus Christi
Do you know the model number or HIN? Those would help narrow it down. The later model 28's did not have bulkhead mounted chainplates, so if the bulkheads were replaced it's either an earlier model or not a 28. The earlier models didn't have Diesel engines so that suggests it is either repowered or a model late enough that it wouldn't have the bulkhead chainplates if it were a 28.
No not yet... there is a distance issue with me and the owner and the boat so logistics... for the HIN that is.

It was re-powered in 2003 with a Yanmar.

It's a early model... '79
 

Pat

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Jun 7, 2004
1,250
Oday 272LE Ninnescah Yacht Club, Wichita, Ks.
The 28's we've been on had the Atomic 4 engine....also the Galley and main cabin setup
was completely different than the one pictured above...more of a traditional setup with the galley on the port side aft and to the port as you come down the companionway. ..Great boats ! Pat
 
Apr 11, 2010
973
Hunter 38 Whitehall MI
It's been a while but we owned an ODay 28 around 1987. At the time we were looking for a boat to buy we looked at an O'Day 27 and a 28.
If I recall correctly the 28 had a wider beam than the 27 did. It seems like it as around 10 ft on the 28.
 
May 16, 2011
140
Oday 28 Niceville, FL
It's been a while but we owned an ODay 28 around 1987. At the time we were looking for a boat to buy we looked at an O'Day 27 and a 28.
If I recall correctly the 28 had a wider beam than the 27 did. It seems like it as around 10 ft on the 28.
Beam on the 28 is 10'-4". The 27 is like 9'.
 
Nov 30, 2009
81
Oday 28 Lake Michigan
DC,
Sunbird, Pat , and tcwaltz have all given you info that should help you ID the boat as a 27 or 28. I own a 1984 (late model) 28. To me the boats are night and day different. But please know I've owned O'Days for quite some time.
If you go on line and look at O'Day 25's you will see that early models had 2 fixed portlights for the cabin and 1 portlight (fixed or opening depending on how originally ordered) for the head area ( just forward of the bulkhead). The later 25 (changed to be called 26's, had one large fixed Plexiglas port for the cabin, and one standard portlight for the head). THe early 28 were exactly the same way. Early 28's had 2 fixed ports for the main cabin that was later changed to 1 long Plexiglas window/port. I think O'Day was trying to look like the more modern "Euro" style.
The 27 has a lower freeboard (sides) and a higher cabin. This was the design to get better headroom. The 28 has a higher freeboard and a lower cabin. Still has the same headroom, just the portions are more evenly balanced for a more uniform look.
tcwaltz mentioned the difference of the beam. The 28 is a big boat. I've admired the 28 for many years and have owned one for 3 years. I can't tell the difference of a O'Day28 and/or ODay30 from a distance. I have to read the boat markings. The side decks on the ODAy 28 are very wide, the Oday 27 are on the narrow side ( remember the beam).
Both boats are very nice, but when you ready the owners review of the ODay 28's on this site they all say the interior was "ballroom size".
One more difference, but this is a maybe. THe ODay 28 has a modified "T" shaped cockpit to accommodate the wheel. It also has a narrow bench at the back (stern) of the cockpit that is raised (kind of a half moon or hump) to give the helmsman better forward vision. I believe, but am not certain, that the 27's just have straight cockpit benches.

Hope this helps.
 
Jun 2, 2004
1,944
Oday Day Sailer Wareham, MA
Dennisv; you are correct, the 27 had just the side benches for seating in hte cockpit, no seat across the aft end. See pictures below.

Pat, I've never seen heard of any O'DAY 28 with an Atomic-4. Maybe one or more had them installed to replace the original OMC Zephyer sail-drive, but I doubt it since by the time the 28 was introduced diesel inboards far outnumbered gas ones as OEM in sailboats, and most owners prefered Diesels as "safer".

A lot of 27s had the A-4 though and it was the "standard" Factory gas inboard for the last few years the 27 was built. Diesel was optional as far as I know.
 

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Mar 28, 2007
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Oday 23 Anna Maria Isl.
Also, not to confuse matters, but just before O'Day closed, they launched a 28 footer called a 280. It was based on the 272. It had a funky side port toward the rear that sort of wrapped up and over the cabin top. Also the interior made a major effort to look modern and European. Very few were made. My favorite by far were the latest of the c/b 28s with the large wedge shaped side port. Lovely interiors on those.
 

Pat

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Jun 7, 2004
1,250
Oday 272LE Ninnescah Yacht Club, Wichita, Ks.
I don't think the inboard gas engine I'm thinking of was an Atomic 4...it was probably the onc you are describing.
they are great boats, very large, and as stated above look much like a 30 ft. O'day...
 
Aug 28, 2015
190
Oday 28 St Joseph, MI
image.jpeg I have a 1981 model O'Day 28. It has three opening ports each side. The interior is as described for other 28's. I just bought it at the end of the summer last year and only sailed it twice before pulling it for the winter so I have a lot to learn about this boat. Yes, it's plenty big inside.
 

druid

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Apr 22, 2009
837
Ontario 32 Pender Harbour
Does it really matter if it's a "27" or a "28"? If you like the size and layout, buy it!

druid