Hi everyone I am getting reaquainted with sailing after 30 years and just got a 216 for Valerie and I to learn how to sail on protected waters. Trailering will be necessary since Visalia is about 3 hours from the ocean, but lakes nearby. Now a porta-potty, eventually maybe something with a hot shower when we have more time. My question is any advice on placement of blocks and leads for lines led aft? I don't want to do something I regret later when we're ready for the spinnaker or if we need hand rails. Pictures if you've done it would be appreciated. Any update on best placement of the jib blocks for beating? Thanks, Dan
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I bought an extra set of fairlead/cleats identical to the factory supplied jib fairlead/cleats and mounted them on the rail about 1/2 way back for single handing. The fairlead/cleats mounted on the cuddy top were just too difficult for me to handle. When I am not single handing, I use the factory supplied fairleads/cleats. When single handing, I run the jib sheets thru the blocks then back to the rail mounted fairlead/cleats. Big problem when flying the spinnaker though in that the spinnaker sheets get tangled in the new fairlead/cleats. I actually mount and dismount the new fairlead/cleats depending on whether or not I will be single handing. I have moved my jib blocks two or three times resulting in a number of holes plugged with screws. I like my current position better than the factory position but I am not satisfied. I really need a car setup but don't know how to get it because of the ridge on the cuddy top.
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Thanks for being the guinea pig or to your boat for being the test mule. I know it will help a lot to keep the mainsail optimized. Since it seems that you are still in the middle of testing, I hope you would find this thread again or start another with your best jib block locations, perhaps the inches abeam and fore or aft from the present location, perhaps a picture. I will be watching and thank you so much in advance. Dan
Thanks for being the guinea pig or to your boat for being the test mule. I know it will help a lot to keep the mainsail optimized. Since it seems that you are still in the middle of testing, I hope you would find this thread again or start another with your best jib block locations, perhaps the inches abeam and fore or aft from the present location, perhaps a picture. I will be watching and thank you so much in advance. Dan
Barber Hauler
It appears to me that the location of the jib fairleads is too far inboard for any point of sail except sailing close hulled. I also reached the conclusion that the addition of a track to allow for adjustment was probably not possible due to the curvature of the cabin top so I've rigged a couple of blocks to use as a barber hauler arrangement between the jib sheet as it comes out of the fairlead and the chainplate. Haven't made it permanent but have used it in several races and it seems to work pretty well. Because I am still cleating the jib sheet with the current cleats, any adjustment requires two separate adjustments; the jib sheet and the barber hauler. As we race on an inland lake, this means constant tending of these adjustments.
It appears to me that the location of the jib fairleads is too far inboard for any point of sail except sailing close hulled. I also reached the conclusion that the addition of a track to allow for adjustment was probably not possible due to the curvature of the cabin top so I've rigged a couple of blocks to use as a barber hauler arrangement between the jib sheet as it comes out of the fairlead and the chainplate. Haven't made it permanent but have used it in several races and it seems to work pretty well. Because I am still cleating the jib sheet with the current cleats, any adjustment requires two separate adjustments; the jib sheet and the barber hauler. As we race on an inland lake, this means constant tending of these adjustments.
Jargon- a necessary evil
Never heard of a barber hauler before your old posts. Do you have any comment on what percentage you outhaul the jib sheet toward the chainplates for various wind speeds, points of sail, rough or smooth water, or any rule of thumb for adjusting this? Thanks, Dan
Never heard of a barber hauler before your old posts. Do you have any comment on what percentage you outhaul the jib sheet toward the chainplates for various wind speeds, points of sail, rough or smooth water, or any rule of thumb for adjusting this? Thanks, Dan
Jib Adjustment
There are really just a couple of things that determine where I locate the block that is actually determining the shape of the jib. I try to keep all three jib telltails breaking evenly and keep the slot between the jib and the main such that the jib is not back winding the main. Telltails on the luff of the main will easily show that but it is also fairly easy to see it on the luff of the main even without telltails. The problem with Hunter's jib block location is that whenever you are sailing off the wind, even a small amount, the jib cannot be adjusted so that either the slot or the telltails are correct to maximize the drive from the jib. Without having some sort of adjustable track, I doubt that there is any physical location that is much better than the Hunter cleats unless of course, most all of your sailing is either in heavy air or somewhat off the wind.
There are really just a couple of things that determine where I locate the block that is actually determining the shape of the jib. I try to keep all three jib telltails breaking evenly and keep the slot between the jib and the main such that the jib is not back winding the main. Telltails on the luff of the main will easily show that but it is also fairly easy to see it on the luff of the main even without telltails. The problem with Hunter's jib block location is that whenever you are sailing off the wind, even a small amount, the jib cannot be adjusted so that either the slot or the telltails are correct to maximize the drive from the jib. Without having some sort of adjustable track, I doubt that there is any physical location that is much better than the Hunter cleats unless of course, most all of your sailing is either in heavy air or somewhat off the wind.
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