Lido 14 Rig repairs

[lalalandlido]

Hi. After a few daysail on our new (well rather old) lido, I've noticed a few problem with the rigging but cannot find another lido owner at the marina to ask. I hope I've been as concise as possible so here goes:

Headstay attachment to mast
Has a metal tang with two holes; top hole is riveted, bottom hole is screwed with headstay fitting sandwiched between tang and mast. Screw hole is nearly stripped; can I rivet bottom hole or does it require a screw? Can I thru bolt it (with flathead screw recessed in main luff channel and nylok nut on front side)? I've also read the jib luff bears most of the load when raised, can I simply hand tighten screw as much as possible?

Mainsail tack attachment
Boat came with shackle on gooseneck which I have been using but most pictures I've seen show rope attached to mast, up thru tack cringle and back down to mast cleat. Which is correct?

Main Halyard fitting
Masthead tube has been sliced thru by wire halyard. What is best solution, replace entire masthead fitting or some sort of custom plate with a large sheeve?

Jib tack attachment
I've seen pictures of it attached with shackle directly to bow plate and also with a 8" line between tack and bow plate, which is preferred?

Thanks in advance for any advice you can offer. I've so much to learn but my what fun its been!

Regards,
Andrew

 

[Joe]

I'll help you with a few:

Headstay attachment to mast I'm not really visualizing what your problem is here but I don't like nuts and bolts on rigging... that's what clevis pins, turnbuckles and shackles are used for..... I think we need a picture.


Mainsail tack attachment Use both... the rope is the "cunningham"...for tensioning the mainsail luff without moving the boom. Check your trim guide for how it's used. (you to have a Trim Guide, don't you?)

Main Halyard fitting again, a picture would help me.. but the word slicing doesn't sound good. The halyard should be running over a sheave (pulley) .... you can google "Lido 14" for parts sources..... or...... call customer service at WD Schock. Yes the boat builder is still very, very much in business.. there are a ton of Lido 14's in so cal beside the home office and factory in Corona, Ca.

Jib tack attachment the line is called a pendant and allows you to raise the sail up above the deck for better visibility... for better performance, tack it low... for casual daysailing on crowded days... tack it high. It's up to you.

 

[lalalandlido]

I'll help you with a few:

Headstay attachment to mast I'm not really visualizing what your problem is here... Here's a picture of the fitting.

The tang is attached pretty well with a rivet at the top but the bottom has a screw thru the tang and headstay eye fitting then into the mast. I've replaced the original screw with a larger gauge one but it still doesn't feel very solid so I'm wondering if there might be a better solution (another rivet perhaps or a thru bolt).


Mainsail tack attachment Use both... the rope is the "cunningham"... This photo from the web is how I've seen many lido's rigged.

It appears that lots of folks do not attach the main at the gooseneck but use a "cunningham" setup as the attachment point. I've got an owners guide from Schock but it only has a diagram of the hull. I have found some wonderful trim info from the web but cannot seem to find a photo of how to set the main tack. Perhaps either way is fine but my mainsail only has one cringle. Doesn't a cunningham usually have a second cringle about 12 inches above the tack for trimming the main luff?

Main Halyard fitting again, a picture would help me.. but the word slicing doesn't sound good. Very true, slicing thru sounds pretty bad.

This is the masthead fitting. I believe this is the original design for the "classic" lido. The halyard wire passes thru this tube but does not have a sheeve of any kind. If you can make out on the left, the wire has sliced thru the tube. While I believe I can order another fitting from Schock, I'm wondering how long before this would happen again and if there might be a better solution.

Jib tack attachment the line is called a pendant...Ah, thanks for that. I've seen it rigged both ways but wasn't sure why.

Thanks for you insights Joe, I appreciate the help. Fair winds...

 

[chefmike]

lido stuff

when I had my lido I went here for alot of info I needed

www.lido14.org

 

[chefmike]

also www.doublewave.com

 

[lalalandlido]

Thanks chefmike, I'll check them out.

 

[lalalandlido]

For Lido owners who are interested, Doublewave makes a retrofit masthead fitting that uses a block and all rope halyard setup to replace the original tube design. Also, they have a headstay repair kit which replaces the original aircraft-eye-riveted-to-mast design with a Ronstan fitting that allows the headstay to pivot which should eliminate the problem I encountered. Check out www.doublewave.com if you are interested. Fair winds...