LED Mast lights

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Mar 29, 2009
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Bavaria 36 Georgetown MD
Hi,
We are thinking of replacing our mast lights with LED's and wonder if anyone has done this? We have a 2004 Bavaria 36 and will be having the rigging checked soon. The deck light is definitely out and probably the steaming light also.
We're aware of some folks that replaced the interior lights with LED's and were very happy with the results. The LED mast lights are very expensive but last a long time and this is the second time we've had to replace the standard steaming light.
Does anyone know what type of LED would replace the lamps there now? Or, perhaps more important, what lamps are up there now so we know what to buy if we determine that the appropriate LED's are prohibitively expensive for our budget? They seem to have a wide range in pricing.
Thanks very much, PB
 
Feb 6, 1998
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Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
Just some information

Hi,
We are thinking of replacing our mast lights with LED's and wonder if anyone has done this? We have a 2004 Bavaria 36 and will be having the rigging checked soon. The deck light is definitely out and probably the steaming light also.
We're aware of some folks that replaced the interior lights with LED's and were very happy with the results. The LED mast lights are very expensive but last a long time and this is the second time we've had to replace the standard steaming light.
Does anyone know what type of LED would replace the lamps there now? Or, perhaps more important, what lamps are up there now so we know what to buy if we determine that the appropriate LED's are prohibitively expensive for our budget? They seem to have a wide range in pricing.
Thanks very much, PB
PB,

It's good to at least know the requirements manufacturers must meet to be USCG compliant with NAV lights. Simply installing an aftermarket LED bulb may not get you even close to the CFR specs for nav lights.

From 33 CFR 84:

Colors

� 84.13 Color specification of lights
(a) The chromaticity of all navigation lights shall conform to the following standards, which lie within the boundaries of the area of the diagram specified for each color by the International Commission on Illumination (CIE), in the "Colors of Light Signals", which is incorporated by reference. It is Publication CIE No. 2.2. (TC-1.6), 1975, and is available from the Illumination Engineering Society, 345 East 47th Street, New York, NY 10017. It is also available for inspection at the Office of the Federal Register, Room 8401, 1100 L Street N.W., Washington, D.C. 20408. This incorporation by reference was approved by the Director of the Federal Register.
(b) The boundaries of the area for each color are given by indicating the corner coordinates, which are as follows:
(1) White:
x 0.525 0.525 0.452 0.310 0.310 0.443
y 0.382 0.440 0.440 0.348 0.283 0.382
(2) Green:
x 0.028 0.009 0.300 0.203
y 0.385 0.723 0.511 0.356
(3) Red:
x 0.680 0.660 0.735 0.721
y 0.320 0.320 0.265 0.259
(4) Yellow:
x 0.612 0.618 0.575 0.575
y 0.382 0.382 0.425 0.406

Intensity

� 84.15 Intensity of lights
(a) The minimum luminous intensity of lights shall be calculated by using the formula:
l = 3.43 x 106 x T x D2 x K-D
where:
I is luminous intensity in candelas under service conditions, T is threshold factor 2 x 10-7 lux, D is range of visibility (luminous range) of the light in nautical miles, K is atmospheric transmissivity. For prescribed lights the value of K shall be 0.8, corresponding to a meteorological visibility of approximately 13 nautical miles.
(b) A selection of figures derived from the formula is given in Table 84.15(b).
Table 84.15(b)
Range of visibility (luminous Minimum
range) of light in nautical luminous intensity of light
miles in candelas tor K = 0.8
D I
1 0.9
2 4.3
3 12
4 27
5 52
6 94

Horizontal Sectors

� 84.17 Horizontal sectors
(a)
(1) In the forward direction, sidelights as fitted on the vessel shall show the minimum required intensities. The intensities shall decrease to reach practical cut-off between 1 and 3 degrees outside the prescribed sectors.
(2) For sternlights and masthead lights and at 22.5 degrees abaft the beam for sidelights, the minimum required intensities shall be maintained over the arc of the horizon up to 5 degrees within the limits of the sectors prescribed in Rule 21. From 5 degrees within the prescribed sectors the intensity may decrease by 50 percent up to the prescribed limits; it shall decrease steadily to reach practical cutoff at not more than 5 degrees outside the prescribed sectors. (b) All-round lights shall be so located as not to be obscured by masts, topmasts or structures within angular sectors of more than 6 degrees, except anchor lights prescribed in Rule 30, which need not be placed at an impracticable height above the hull, and the all-round white light described in Rule 23(d), which may not be obscured at all. (c) If it is impracticable to comply with paragraph (b) of this section by exhibiting only one all-round light, two all-round lights shall be used suitably positioned or screened to appear, as far as practicable, as one light at a minimum distance of one nautical mile.

NOTE to paragraph (c): Two unscreened all-round lights that are 1.28 meters appart or less will appear as one light to the naked eye at a distance of one nautical mile.


Vertical Sectors

� 84.19 Vertical sectors
(a) The vertical sectors of electric lights as fitted, with the exception of lights on sailing vessels underway and on unmanned barges, shall ensure that:
(1) At least the required minimum intensity is maintained at all angles from 5 degrees above to 5 degrees below the horizontal;
(2) At least 60 percent of the required minimum intensity is maintained from 7.5 degrees above to 7.5 degrees below the horizontal.
(b) In the case of sailing vessels underway the vertical sectors of electric lights as fitted shall ensure that:
(1) At least the required minimum intensity is maintained at all angles from 5 degrees above to 5 degrees below the horizontal;
(2) At least 50 percent of the required minimum intensity is maintained from 25 degrees above to 25 degrees below the horizontal.
(c) In the case of unmanned barges the minimum required intensity of electric lights as fitted shall be maintained on the horizontal.
(d) In the case of lights other than electric lights these specifications shall be met as closely as possible.





Consider this:


If you are involved in a night time collision, your fault or not, and you feel you can go up against Jim Sokolove or his buddies who would be prancing about a courtroom with the above CFR standards for nav lights than by all means go for it. If you are not sure the bulbs you put into the existing fixtures meets all those specifications then you might want to use caution.

I will say this again as I have many times before, it is NOT the USCG who will care. The lawyers will however care if and when you are involved in a nigh time accident. It is NOT the USCG you need to worry about it is the ambulance chasers who are looking for a case, any case, to show why their drunk defendant deserves to get off scott free.

If you have read the above CFR for nav lights and still believe you can meet these horizontal, vertical, color spectrum and intensity parameters, with the bulbs you choose, than you're good to go...

Consider this scenario:

You are at anchor with your non certified, blueish colored LED anchor light that you saved big money on by purchasing it from an auto parts store. Joe six pack in his 32 foot Baja with 550 H.P. has been drinking all day and is blasting home when he plows into your boat and kills your child. Fast forward about two years to the trial where the lawyer for the defendant is blaming you, and convincing the jury that because you were a cheap skate, and circumvented the use of certified nav lights to save a few pennies (remember to the jury you are a rich boater anyway), you are the reason your child is dead because his drunk defendant could not see your anchor light...

A stretch? Possibly not. I sat through two days of this type of testimony during the trial of the defendant who killed my friends father. It was two days of nav light testimony only these were certified nav lights, and yes that was brought up, and the bulbs were examined by a forensics expert to determine if the bulb was on at time of impact. The case would have been made much easier if Kim's dad had simply installed aftermarket LED's as it would have given the lawyers food for fodder.

Again tis is about your comfort level and I only wanted to give you some things to consider.

There are plenty of certified NAV lights on the market but only one single bulb certified for use in an already existing fixture. The only after market bulb that is certified for use in existing fixtures is the Dr. LED Polarstar 40 when used in an Aquasignal Series 40 all round/anchor light.
 
Mar 29, 2009
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Bavaria 36 Georgetown MD
Wow! Thanks for the education. I was looking for a certified LED replacement fixture but didn't realize this early in the research that there is only one. We plan to go offshore, and must have good bright dependable lights. Selden (our mast) rep said that our current lights are Aquasignal but we will have to get our mast serial number, so we will do that and perhaps learn the series, number of prongs, etc.
 
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