I JUST NEGOTIATED TO PURCHASE AN '88 30T-I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO USING IT BUT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A CONDITION FOUND IN THE AFT CABIN AND HEAD, THE BACK WALLS OF EACH HAVE DELAMINATING WOOD. I'VE ALMOST CONVINCED MYSELF THAT IT PROBABLY RESULTED FROM THE FAILURE OF THE OWNER TO COVER IT IN THE WINTER WHICH MAY HAVE ALLOWED WATER AND SNOW TO ACCUMULATE AND SOMEHOW FIND ITS WAY UNDERNEATH. ANY THOUGHTS?
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John J Frank
Been there, seen that!
I purchased my 1989 30t going on 3 years ago and have also seen the delamination of the interior laminate behind the head and at the base of the rear berth, under the cushions. While I did find and repair a leak in the aft cabin, the only leakage I found in the head was related to plumbing. My thought is that because the end grain of the laminate/plywood sheeting was not sealed, if any moisture comes in contact with this material it will eventually delaminate. If you are seeing major delamination in the plywood itself, I would agree with you that you probably have water penetration somewhere, and finding it is the 'fun' part of owning a hunter.
I purchased my 1989 30t going on 3 years ago and have also seen the delamination of the interior laminate behind the head and at the base of the rear berth, under the cushions. While I did find and repair a leak in the aft cabin, the only leakage I found in the head was related to plumbing. My thought is that because the end grain of the laminate/plywood sheeting was not sealed, if any moisture comes in contact with this material it will eventually delaminate. If you are seeing major delamination in the plywood itself, I would agree with you that you probably have water penetration somewhere, and finding it is the 'fun' part of owning a hunter.
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Jay Uebel
Ditto.....
I just bought a 89 30T and my head is the same way. The laminate is flaking off. My is starting from the bottem plus I noticed that the cover over the head bladder is doing the same thing. I don't think it's coming from a leak. The head gets so humid in there while it's closed up. It's never dry in there. I think it's happening from the humidity. Is your delamination at the top or the bottem. If it's the bottem I doubt that it's a leak. It's a great boat anyway. I love mine. Plus it something you can fix.
I just bought a 89 30T and my head is the same way. The laminate is flaking off. My is starting from the bottem plus I noticed that the cover over the head bladder is doing the same thing. I don't think it's coming from a leak. The head gets so humid in there while it's closed up. It's never dry in there. I think it's happening from the humidity. Is your delamination at the top or the bottem. If it's the bottem I doubt that it's a leak. It's a great boat anyway. I love mine. Plus it something you can fix.
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Dee Doyle
Moisture in my '89 30'
Yes, I, too, have a great deal of moisture in the cabin, particularly this year with all the rain we have had. I STILL have a leaky main salon hatch, which is causing a great deal of the moisture invasion ... AND, I have a leak where the shrouds/stays enter the cabin ... in fact, the huge nuts at the base of the stays shows signs of rust. Question ... has anyone dealt with having these things rebedded? And, of course, I am looking the for silver bullet [ read, cheap but efficient cure for leaking hatch ]! And, how are you all dealing with mildew? thanks in advance for any insights.
Yes, I, too, have a great deal of moisture in the cabin, particularly this year with all the rain we have had. I STILL have a leaky main salon hatch, which is causing a great deal of the moisture invasion ... AND, I have a leak where the shrouds/stays enter the cabin ... in fact, the huge nuts at the base of the stays shows signs of rust. Question ... has anyone dealt with having these things rebedded? And, of course, I am looking the for silver bullet [ read, cheap but efficient cure for leaking hatch ]! And, how are you all dealing with mildew? thanks in advance for any insights.
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Bryan Pfaffenberger
Vent that area!
Consider installing a couple of stainless steel air vents (round, louvered) to get some air into enclosed head areas. If the result is a foul odor, you probably have a leak in the aluminum holding tank - if so, replace it immediately! (There's a good thread on this subject elsewhere in the mid-sized forum.) To improve head ventilation generally, some 30G owners have installed a Beckson opening port in the head's plexiglas window. (The previous owner of my boat did this.) A much better solution would be to put a small opening hatch in the coach roof.
Consider installing a couple of stainless steel air vents (round, louvered) to get some air into enclosed head areas. If the result is a foul odor, you probably have a leak in the aluminum holding tank - if so, replace it immediately! (There's a good thread on this subject elsewhere in the mid-sized forum.) To improve head ventilation generally, some 30G owners have installed a Beckson opening port in the head's plexiglas window. (The previous owner of my boat did this.) A much better solution would be to put a small opening hatch in the coach roof.
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John J Frank
Rebedding the chainplates
Dee I rebedded the chainplates on my 1989 30 this spring and it was not all that complicated. First I had the yard drop the mast, but from what I hear you could do them one at a time using your halyards to offset the removed shrouds. You then simply back off the nut in the cabin and unscrew the three positioning screws on the top of the chainplate. It should not take that much effort from here to pull the chainplate out to clean both surfaces off of any bedding compound. Then use a solvent, such as acetone or alcohol to clean the surfaces to be rebedded. From there use 4200 or 5200 compound on the bottom of the chainplate, using just enough to get a good seal, but not to much that you'll have a mess to try and clean up after. Then position the chainplate back in the hole, putting the screws back to index the plate and then tighten the nut back up to seat the plate. Do not just snug it up with the thought of tightening it up after it cures, as this will not happen. Clean up the topside and allow a couple of days for the compound to cure before you reattach your shrouds. Good luck.
Dee I rebedded the chainplates on my 1989 30 this spring and it was not all that complicated. First I had the yard drop the mast, but from what I hear you could do them one at a time using your halyards to offset the removed shrouds. You then simply back off the nut in the cabin and unscrew the three positioning screws on the top of the chainplate. It should not take that much effort from here to pull the chainplate out to clean both surfaces off of any bedding compound. Then use a solvent, such as acetone or alcohol to clean the surfaces to be rebedded. From there use 4200 or 5200 compound on the bottom of the chainplate, using just enough to get a good seal, but not to much that you'll have a mess to try and clean up after. Then position the chainplate back in the hole, putting the screws back to index the plate and then tighten the nut back up to seat the plate. Do not just snug it up with the thought of tightening it up after it cures, as this will not happen. Clean up the topside and allow a couple of days for the compound to cure before you reattach your shrouds. Good luck.
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Dee Doyle
Thanks, John!
Thanks for your guidance on how to rebed the chainplates ... I think I am just a bit skittish about doing it myself, BUT, the yard I use will appreciate that I have SOME knowledge of how it's done, and perhaps won't charge me as much to do it! I do so much on the boat that I feel comfortable enough with, but rigging is so important, I best let the pros do it! Thanks again!
Thanks for your guidance on how to rebed the chainplates ... I think I am just a bit skittish about doing it myself, BUT, the yard I use will appreciate that I have SOME knowledge of how it's done, and perhaps won't charge me as much to do it! I do so much on the boat that I feel comfortable enough with, but rigging is so important, I best let the pros do it! Thanks again!
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