Does anyone know who manufactored the lead Keels for O'Day? I have a problem with my wing keel on my O'Day 240. The top of the starboard wing has an epoxy substance on it that is coming off. Underneath it has some sort of redish granular substance I am not sure what it is or what it is for! Nope it is not MUD! I would like to contact the manufacture to see if this is original, or, if the previous owners have added something to the wings. My owners manual say's it is a solid cast lead keel, so I do not think that it is encapsulated lead. Has anyone seen this before. Unable to post pics to this site. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Alan
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Just a hunch
Alan, My 272 also has a lead keel with winglets (not encapsulated). Several years ago, the first time I cleaned the bottom and keel to prep for bottom paint, I noticed that there were a couple of areas on the keel surface which were not lead. One was on top of the keel and the other was on the leading edge (I forget which side). Anyway, I removed the stuff and then realized that the previous owner had used it to fair the keel. He had hit something at some time which put a dent in the lead on the leading edge, and the other spot was faired to smooth out some imperfections. Come to think of it, that could just as well have been done by ODay before the boat was commissioned. I have since dragged the keel a couple of times (yes, --it happens to me too) and faired it myself with Marinetex, then repainted it. Bottom line I would guess would be to clean it, fair it with something that will bond to the lead, and next spring, paint and launch. Tom
Alan, My 272 also has a lead keel with winglets (not encapsulated). Several years ago, the first time I cleaned the bottom and keel to prep for bottom paint, I noticed that there were a couple of areas on the keel surface which were not lead. One was on top of the keel and the other was on the leading edge (I forget which side). Anyway, I removed the stuff and then realized that the previous owner had used it to fair the keel. He had hit something at some time which put a dent in the lead on the leading edge, and the other spot was faired to smooth out some imperfections. Come to think of it, that could just as well have been done by ODay before the boat was commissioned. I have since dragged the keel a couple of times (yes, --it happens to me too) and faired it myself with Marinetex, then repainted it. Bottom line I would guess would be to clean it, fair it with something that will bond to the lead, and next spring, paint and launch. Tom
Thanks Tom!!
That is what I am thinking. Although I want to check this out if I can with the maufacture of the keel. Thanks for your responce. Alan
That is what I am thinking. Although I want to check this out if I can with the maufacture of the keel. Thanks for your responce. Alan
Try Here...
I'm not sure whether Mars metals made the O'Day keels, but there one of the best known in the bus., They are located in Burlington, On., but you could give them a shout and ask there opinion. My guess for the "red" stuff is red lead paint, used mainly as a bilge paint, in engine rooms. The epoxy stuff is as Tom mentioned likely an attempt to fair the keel. All just a guess on my part. Follow the link below for further info. Good luck, and fair keels. Don
I'm not sure whether Mars metals made the O'Day keels, but there one of the best known in the bus., They are located in Burlington, On., but you could give them a shout and ask there opinion. My guess for the "red" stuff is red lead paint, used mainly as a bilge paint, in engine rooms. The epoxy stuff is as Tom mentioned likely an attempt to fair the keel. All just a guess on my part. Follow the link below for further info. Good luck, and fair keels. Don
heard from Mars Keel
They say it is probably lead corrosion due to a poor repair job that trapped moisture between the epoxy and the lead keel. They suggest removing all rusty material and then reapplying epoxy after throughly cleaning the keel then, if felt necessary, to glass over it so I wouldn't have to worry about it again. Sounds like I have some work to do. Thanks Tom and Don for your responce. Alan
They say it is probably lead corrosion due to a poor repair job that trapped moisture between the epoxy and the lead keel. They suggest removing all rusty material and then reapplying epoxy after throughly cleaning the keel then, if felt necessary, to glass over it so I wouldn't have to worry about it again. Sounds like I have some work to do. Thanks Tom and Don for your responce. Alan
Bad smelting
Hi. I have heard of a similar problem with the 322s. I work at a boat yard, and have seen this broblem in person. WHAT IT *PROBABLY* is: 1)A bubble was made during the smelting process back in '89. 2)Someone then tried to fill the little depression that resulted with epoxy. 3)While they were putting on the epoxy, some moisture got trapped in there (like someone already said) and.... 4)made it rust. 5)the rust screwed up the upoxy job, and... 6)it was discovered by you. Glad to help.
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Hi. I have heard of a similar problem with the 322s. I work at a boat yard, and have seen this broblem in person. WHAT IT *PROBABLY* is: 1)A bubble was made during the smelting process back in '89. 2)Someone then tried to fill the little depression that resulted with epoxy. 3)While they were putting on the epoxy, some moisture got trapped in there (like someone already said) and.... 4)made it rust. 5)the rust screwed up the upoxy job, and... 6)it was discovered by you. Glad to help.
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Thanks Ben for your responce. That may be what has happened. I have not had the time yet to grind away and see what kind of damage is there. I am hoping to do this over the winter. May do it in the next week or so if the weather holds out. I will post the results when I do it. Alan
Thanks Ben for your responce. That may be what has happened. I have not had the time yet to grind away and see what kind of damage is there. I am hoping to do this over the winter. May do it in the next week or so if the weather holds out. I will post the results when I do it. Alan
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