Largest trailerable boat

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Don M. Chesley

I would like to talk to the person on this fourm with the largest trailered boat I can find. I am considering a move up to a RV size boat, something to take across state lines and spend some serious time on.The water near me is very small and frozen a lot of the time and I am lookint to use the boat like an RV. Thank you for any help you can give, Don
 
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Mike

not the largest

I have a 1996 H26. It’s not the largest but I can stand in the head and take a leak. I haul it with my 2005 Tacoma V6. A little under powered on the highway but in 4wd low range there’s no problem recovering. I pulled a 20ft travel trailer for 10 years with 2 kids. Now with just me and the wife “High Cotton” is comparable in terms of towing and interior utility.
 

Ross

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Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
The limiting factor is not going

to be the size of the boat but rather the depth of the water at the launching ramp. You must float the boat on and off the trailer. So what you have to consider is draft with board up.
 
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nick maggio

Don't Forget

Don't forget the tow vehicle youwill need to pull this big heavy boat and trailer and also the stopping of all this weight. I am not trying to burst your bubble but just remember to figure that into your plan. Before I got into a big sail boat I did a lot of pulling of big rv's and saw people always trying to up grade to the perfect tow vehicle after buying that bigger rv or pulling that big power boat with a small vehicle. I did a lot of recues at the launching ramps and also did a lot of beach camping with a 28 ft camper. You also need to think about pulling and stopping the bigest trailable boat and trailer,just my 2 cents. nick
 

okiman

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Hunter Cherubini 33_77-83 Okinawa, Japan
Seaward Eagle 32

Last summer I visited Hake Yachts in Stuart, Florida. They make a 26 and 32 foot coastal cruiser with a retracting keel and are trailerable. I was able to see several boats in different stages of completion and they appear to be very well made. I am partial to traditional lines and these boats have it. Both are light enough that you don't need an 18 wheeler tractor to tow it. Sometimes you can find used ones on the market but their popularity is pretty high so owners tend to keep them. Go to www.seawardyachts.com for more information. Good luck!
 

abe

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Jan 2, 2007
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Seaward 26>32....you may have a beam problem with

the 32....too wide over 10ft and may need special permits
 
Aug 9, 2005
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Hunter 260 Sarasota,FL
Our H240 seems well suited.

While "the biggest" is hard to qualify, our 2000 Hunter 240 is big but very easy to tow with our suv, shallow draft, roomy, easy to single hand and is used often becuse of its easy setup. We are very happy with this choice. Dockspace is impossibly expensive for us and a mooring seems too risky on our crowded open bay mooring field in Sarasota so after many hours of research it fit all the compromises that a trailer boat becomes. I always wonder if a H260 wouldn't have been better but so begins a sailors affliction with size. A standup head would be nice but we would have needed a bigger truck for the 260 and might have issues with marginal ramps. I think a 260 would be a better "RV" for in-transit road camping if thats what you meant. Otherwise very similar boats except for cost and total towing weight. Happy hunting. Michael on H240 "Bonafide"
 
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John R

large Tariler Sailor

I have a Hunter 260 that I have pulled behind a 6 cyl. Chevrolet Pickup and now a 6 cyl. Nissan Frontier Pickup. I have pulled this boat accross most of the USA and parts of Canada even in the winter snows. It fits through the toll boths, tracks behind the truck very well.
 

Gene G

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Jun 11, 2004
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A few thoughts

A few random thoughts about towing. Brakes and balance are probably the biggies. Of course, you have to have enough power to make it somewhere, but even big trucks have a long time getting going when loaded heavily. Some say the tow vehicle needs to be heavier than the load, but, again, a big truck can have a tractor of about 15,000 lbs, and a load of 60,000+ regularly, and some are running up and down the road at over 100,000 lbs load. Again, balance and brakes. I drive a dodge diesel 1 ton dually. Rated for 24,000 combined load, licensed at 24,000 lbs, and often haul around 20,000 gross (truck, trailer(s) and load). Drives just great, feels like it is half loaded. Many rv'ers haul trailers that gross, with their tow vehicles, at well over 20,000 lbs. They drive far more than we do pulling boats. Around cental Missouri where I am now the local farmers all buy 3/4 or 1 ton diesels, a goose neck and take off with a large - often 40' - gooseneck trailer with a load of hay or cows, grossing at 30,000 to 40,000. I've never heard of them having a problem. My son showed up one day with his 3/4 ton Dodge diesel hauling a small trackloader I own, probably grossing about 22,000. He didn't even have brakes working on the trailer! Now, that scared me. He was missing half the "brakes and balance" I mentioned. I'm going to try to attach a picture of a trip I made about a year and a half ago from Central Texas to Central Missouri, a 1000 mile jog. I still had a 3/4 ton diesel then. The truck was full, the trailer was full and the boat was full. I was grossing about 21,000. Not a sign of a problem. I went through Arkansas, some of the crookedest roads around. Bottom line is, make sure your rig is balanced right, make sure you have brakes that will handle it and you can probably pull a pretty big boat. Don't over load your tires. One problem we have that the rv guys don't is getting up the boat ramp. Factor that in. If it were me and I wanted to take off with a big load I wasn't sure of, I'd find a big parking lot and try it out. See how it panic stops. Is it going to jackknife? Is it going to sway? Know what it will do before panic time. Oh, I have a friend who hauls boats for a living. He usually rents his trucks. He usually rents an F350 Ford Dually and pulls things like 30 Catalinas, 30 Tartans and sometimes bigger. Never had a problem that I've heard of. Anyway, just my thoughts.
 

OldCat

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Jul 26, 2005
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Catalina , Nacra 5.8, Laser, Hobie Hawk Wonmop, CO
Random CO Thoughts . . .

Random CO thoughts . . . 1. Over 26' will put you on a long waiting list at Carter Lake. 2. Over 10' beam will cost more in slip fees at Pueblo. 3. You don't necessarily have to ramp launch - Frisco Marina (Dillon) and Pueblo both have mentioned crane days to me. Ramp launching to ~4' draft is done a lot around here. 4. Over 26klbs combined GVWR of trailer and truck and you need a CDL (CO law). 5. I have CO wide towing pdf files from the state if you are interested, a one trip permit is $15 (good in CO only, you have to pay each state you travel thru). 6. Have you seen The Anchorage's Beneteau 323 with lift keel, on a trailer? (really nice wet dream, but way outta my price range) 7. Are you trying to weekend - or just take the boat south for the Winter to warm water? Anything over 22-23', and certainly over 25-26' will be a PIA to setup if only for a weekend. If you are planning to wet sail and just change venues for winter, then if you want to play, you can pay, if setup is too much for you, you can always pay a team at the boatyard or marina to do setup and launch. What's your goal - a weekender at a different lake that is easy to setup and launch - or a winter boat you can fly down to for winter use, then bring back for the summer at a CO lake? Or - something else - like long travel trips towing to multiple destinations? We may have somewhat similar goals - I'd like to move up from 22', to something larger that would be mostly wet sailed in CO, but might make a winter trip to AZ or TX. Cheers, OldCat
 
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Don M Chesley

Thanks oldcat

Thanks for the reply and the topical information. What I had in mind is to use the boat like an RV in a warmer climate during the winter, and here at home in the summer. I would like to try a live aboard situation some time soon. I have an ODay 20 right now that I can overnight on by my self however I might like some company once in a while by the way where is Wonmop Co. I am a native and I have never heard of this place?
 
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Clayton

Hunter 26.5 in FTC

Don, Hopefully you have thought through what type of rig it will take to haul this larger trailersailer around. We bought our 26.5 several years ago and have upgraded tow vehicles twice since then. Current rig is an 04' Chevy Silverado 3/4 ton. I ended up going with the 6.0L gas engine and even at 300hp (from Chevy???) my truck still grunts pretty good moving our boat around. With the current setup, I wouldn't even consider Dillon. With a diesel, probably... If you want a big trailerable boat, there is a Pearson 28 at our favorite boat store in Lyons that will make most any tow vehicle grunt. I will agree with the previous posts that brake balance is key. I am running electric brakes that really work well and braking is a non issue. On other thing to consider with any bigger boat is how to step the mast. We have a mast raisining system (devised by someone smarter than me) that works VERY WELL. So well, in fact, that I can raise the mast by myself. Also, consider launching. Our boat has a fixed wing keel and we have to strap launch to get the trailer out deep enough and not flood the truck. If you are interested, e-mail me at svwalkabout at hotmail.com and I can send you some pics of our boat. Better yet, next spring, come on up and help us put her in the lake. Just kidding... Regards, Clayton s/v Walkabout Hunter 26.5
 
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OldCat

Wonmop and Boat Thoughts . . .

Wonmop is Longmont. How did it get that name? When we moved here my then 2 year old (now 9 year old "Whitecap Jeff") couldn't say "Longmont" - it came out of his toddler mouth as Wonmop - so a family joke ever since! Whitecap Jeff is the real sailing enthusiast in my family - even the day that we got overrun by a squall on Dillon did no faze him. Too bad about that used Pearson 28 at The Anchorage - very radically overpriced. Compare on Yachtworld - you could get a new galvanized trailer and still be ahead & the Anchorage's boat has only an older painted trailer. There are several Catalina 27s for sale around the state - one at Pueblo North Shore Marina. You might also Yachtworld the Com-Pac 27, a really nice looking boat & big enough for a couple with reasonable galley and proper head. Yachtworld also had a Cape Dory 26 listed with a trailer in TX. Or, with enough truck, you could get that 32 foot Beneteau new at The Anchorage! Best o' Luck!
 
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Andy

Small boat big RV

I can't believe I'm saying this but have you ever considered getting a smaller boat and a larger RV? A Class B RV and a Hobie Cat/Flying Scot/or Hunter 216 may make as much sense. Ah but alas, those sunsets at a quiet anchorage do appeal to one more than slamming screen doors, running generators, and state park interogations..hmmm..I think I just answered my question. Look at a Nimble 30 or Shoalsailer. You will need a big truck but you will have a lot of boat.
 
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Doug L

Watch the beam

I own a 1994 Hunter 26, that is a great boat for weekending, as there is lots or room inside, but the boat is quite beamy, 8'11". Depending on wherre you are driving, permits may be required for trailers over 8' in width. If I were trailering a lot I would pay close attention to the beam of the boat to avoid unwanted visits from the local police. The MacGregor 26x is easy to launch, shallow draft and 8' beam (I believe 8" is legal in all states) and light weight on the trailer and sails OK. It might be a good choice for you. Others I would consider are the Hunter 240 and 260 (a bit wide, I believe it is 8'6") or the new Hunter 25 (that one is a bit heavy on the trailer) It realy depends on what the priorities are, the best sailing boat or the best accomodations or best trailering & launching. You will not get them all in the same boat.
 

OldCat

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Catalina , Nacra 5.8, Laser, Hobie Hawk Wonmop, CO
Overwidth Permits

Doug – you are correct about towing width limits – but – overwidth permits are not that big a deal. For example – a CO one trip overwidth permit is $15 (they are typically $10-30 per state). If one is talking about towing to, say, Kemah, TX for the winter and then back to CO for the summer – then permits are a small part of the cost of boat ownership. So – if asking the “largest trailerable” question – overwidth is an issue – but not a show stopper. I am in somewhat the same mental space as Don – I live in CO and want a bigger boat. I have an F350 to tow it with, so up to 10k lbs total trailer and boat weight is OK. That opens up options in the 27-28’ range, and even a few at 30-31 feet if one wanted to really spend the big bux. Not a boat to tow every weekend, but twice a year might not be too bad.
 
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T J Furstenau

Overwidth Issues

The subject of towing the H26/H260 and its width has come up numerous times here on HOW. As a previous H26 owner, I can tell you that I bought the boat in NJ, towed it to IL, usually sailed it out of WI, made regular trips to OH with it, and one trip down to KY, and never had a permit. Passed numerous patrol officers and toll plazas and in the median and was passed by several police cars enroute, and never got stopped. If I had to wager, I'd bet that 90% of H26/H260 owners don't get permits. A few years back, there was a poster on the board who was a state patrol officer and he said the only time he made wide-load stops related to commercial vehicles. Now I'm not saying that avoiding the permit is the right to do, but driving 5 mph over the limit is against the law as well, and how many of us do that? (I'm not talking about while pulling the trailer.) As my brother likes to say "Ask for forgiveness, not for permission". Now this is all my own opinion and you should do what you feel comfortable with. I'm not an attorney or a police officer, and have never played one on TV. T J
 

Rich L

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Mar 9, 2004
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Hunter 26 Kentucky
Overwidth

A KY permit cost me almost $300. Got it the first year and never since. Never been stopped. I was told by KY Transportation Department that you have to get one in every state you travel, but then an over-the-road driver told me that wasn't true as he pulled oversize loads all the time and that would be regulating interstate commerce. Bottom line for me, I don't drive over the speed limit or too fast for the conditions pulling my H26. BTW, I love my H26. I have a friends with other trailerables and I wouldn't trade it for any of 'em! Though some day I'd like a 4 meter with mylar sails, kevlar hull, canting keel, and all the sail controls I've never had... (I really regret not having a traveler and jib tracks)
 
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Don Chesley

Thanks everybody

Thanks for the great discusion guys. Its is great to get answers to a question like this. What I was looking for was a boat to take out of state in the winter time and live on it for the duration. What I have is a motorhome and a ODay 20. I have become convinced that what I have is going to be fine and a lot of fun use plus I will have access to all of the shallow lakes and ponds that are in the neighborhood. Oldcat if you would like to contact me at 303-772-5378 I would like to buy you a cup of coffee and a donut here in town. Buy the way do you use Union Resevior in Longmont.
 
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John

Buying Hunter 26.5

Clayton...I just read your email about your Hunter 26.5 and I'd like to pick you brain about a few things. I'm about to buy a 26.5 from an owner who built a custom trailor for it. It looks very well built...very sturdy... but it has only one axle and no brakes. He claims that the boat will trailor beautifully behind my '97 GMC Suburban, but I'd like your opinion, since you also have experience moving this boat. I really love the boat...it's in great condition... but I want to make sure that I can safely trailer this baby around. I'm about 2 hours away from Lake Erie, where i plan to do most of my sailing.
 
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