I've been looking at some of the higher HP Honda's, because they are four stroke, and light, relatively speaking. I'm picking up my Oday 22 in about two weeks, and it's my first sail boat. The question I have is exactly how good is a 9.9 hp for pushing the boat around? It just doesn't seem that it would have the power to move the 22 more then say five miles an hour. I mean I'm sure it serves the purpose of moving it around the docks a bit, but I'd like to have something to fall back on if I ran into say a dead calm, or some other type of trouble. So what can I expect from the engine? What types of engines does everyone have? What ratings? How large of an engine can be put on with a beefed up bracket? Thanks, Josh
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Larger Engine
My 2-stroke mercury 9.9 died on me a few years back and I replaced it with a brand new 2-stroke Mercury 15. The 15 weighs about 85lbs and that was some concern to me so I replaced the old mount with a new one rated for 100 lbs, the strongest that would still fit on the mounting block on the transom. Maybe a little close but it's holding up good. The 15 pushes my O-Day 25 easily at 6kts with around 3/4 throttle on a flat lake. Slower when I have to fight through smoker wakes. 6kts is close to hull speed so full throttle doesn't make it go much faster. What I like most is usable reverse power, necessary to get around in the tight space between docks here in NB. What I like least is that 85lbs is tough to pull up, even with the helper springs on the mount. Just be sure the transom is beefy enough to carry the weight of the engine you select.
My 2-stroke mercury 9.9 died on me a few years back and I replaced it with a brand new 2-stroke Mercury 15. The 15 weighs about 85lbs and that was some concern to me so I replaced the old mount with a new one rated for 100 lbs, the strongest that would still fit on the mounting block on the transom. Maybe a little close but it's holding up good. The 15 pushes my O-Day 25 easily at 6kts with around 3/4 throttle on a flat lake. Slower when I have to fight through smoker wakes. 6kts is close to hull speed so full throttle doesn't make it go much faster. What I like most is usable reverse power, necessary to get around in the tight space between docks here in NB. What I like least is that 85lbs is tough to pull up, even with the helper springs on the mount. Just be sure the transom is beefy enough to carry the weight of the engine you select.
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Bob McGee, O'Day 22
Why a larger O/B ?
Without knowing what kind of water you sail in up there in Wisconsin (Lake Michigan ???), I can only comment on my own situation. I have an O'Day 22 which included a 20-year old Johnson 9.9 with electric start and generator when I bought her. She weighed in at about 85 lbs. Since I sail primarily on inland lakes, the only use I have for the kicker is to maneuver around the marina, and to get me home when the wind dies. I sold my 9.9 and replaced it with a new Johnson 3.3 2-stroke, which weighs about 27 lbs. I feel a lot more comfortable with that much less weight hanging off the stern bracket, and the 3.3 drives me at over 5 knots at 2/3 throttle ... of course, I don't have any tides, currents or big water to worry about. I did have a second thought about buying a 2-stroke vs. a 4-stroke, but the lower weight of the 2-stroke, the much lower cost, combined with its absolute minimal use (less than one hour for the whole season) convinced me that I'm not all that much of an environmental pig.
Without knowing what kind of water you sail in up there in Wisconsin (Lake Michigan ???), I can only comment on my own situation. I have an O'Day 22 which included a 20-year old Johnson 9.9 with electric start and generator when I bought her. She weighed in at about 85 lbs. Since I sail primarily on inland lakes, the only use I have for the kicker is to maneuver around the marina, and to get me home when the wind dies. I sold my 9.9 and replaced it with a new Johnson 3.3 2-stroke, which weighs about 27 lbs. I feel a lot more comfortable with that much less weight hanging off the stern bracket, and the 3.3 drives me at over 5 knots at 2/3 throttle ... of course, I don't have any tides, currents or big water to worry about. I did have a second thought about buying a 2-stroke vs. a 4-stroke, but the lower weight of the 2-stroke, the much lower cost, combined with its absolute minimal use (less than one hour for the whole season) convinced me that I'm not all that much of an environmental pig.
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Steve Growcock
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A friend of mine was tired of hassling with a petroleum-based engine and the breaksdowns he was experiencing. Tossed it out for a high-end trolling motor for the rear of his 19 ft. I believe he mentioned 50 ft-lbs of thrust. Lake Carlyle is roughly 10 by 3 miles sailable area and has no problem scooting around as needed. He has two batteries on board - motor and system and has never run the motor battery down requiring a switch to backup. It is a bit unnerving to see a sailboat leaving the marina without any noise. Also, he likes to sail out on the lake early to watch the sunrise and his neighbors appreciate the lack of sound. Me and my Oday 25? 7.5 hp Merc ob- noise, gas and all. Steve!
A friend of mine was tired of hassling with a petroleum-based engine and the breaksdowns he was experiencing. Tossed it out for a high-end trolling motor for the rear of his 19 ft. I believe he mentioned 50 ft-lbs of thrust. Lake Carlyle is roughly 10 by 3 miles sailable area and has no problem scooting around as needed. He has two batteries on board - motor and system and has never run the motor battery down requiring a switch to backup. It is a bit unnerving to see a sailboat leaving the marina without any noise. Also, he likes to sail out on the lake early to watch the sunrise and his neighbors appreciate the lack of sound. Me and my Oday 25? 7.5 hp Merc ob- noise, gas and all. Steve!
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I have a 9.9 with electric start and reverse on my O'Day 25. It is a 1984 OMC 2 stroke that starts every time an idles like a champ. The hull speed on my O'Day 25 is only 5.7 knots. Putting a larger engine will not move the boat that much faster, but will use more fuel. I am not a big fan of carrying more fuel to my boat or buying gas from the dock at twice the price. If you are looking to race the boat under power, you may need to look at a McGregger. I would imagine a 7.9 would work fine on a 22, but a 9.9 would probly have electric start. I would really make sure you can get reverse gearing on the new outboard. Good luck with the new boat. EJ Tews Jennifer Lea
I have a 9.9 with electric start and reverse on my O'Day 25. It is a 1984 OMC 2 stroke that starts every time an idles like a champ. The hull speed on my O'Day 25 is only 5.7 knots. Putting a larger engine will not move the boat that much faster, but will use more fuel. I am not a big fan of carrying more fuel to my boat or buying gas from the dock at twice the price. If you are looking to race the boat under power, you may need to look at a McGregger. I would imagine a 7.9 would work fine on a 22, but a 9.9 would probly have electric start. I would really make sure you can get reverse gearing on the new outboard. Good luck with the new boat. EJ Tews Jennifer Lea
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Too Heavy!
Honda...Too Heavy!!!! Johnson or Evinrude 6 HP (long shaft) will do everything (except water ski!) you will want to do. good Luck!
Honda...Too Heavy!!!! Johnson or Evinrude 6 HP (long shaft) will do everything (except water ski!) you will want to do. good Luck!
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Josh
Weight isnt much more...
I was looking at what everyone is quoting for weights, and the honda 15 is only about 10 to 15 lbs heavier then the 9.9 two strokes. I guess the reason I'd like to go with a four is because it pollutes less, is much more quiet, and the honda's have damned near every option I could want. Granted, a new one runs just a lil less then what I paid for the boat, but I'd try to find a cheaper one. For just an extra 15 lbs I wouldnt mind a charger, remote controls, electric start and five more horse. I know it wont make the boat go any faster, but I plan on doing some traveling, and will be on the Great Lakes. If the weather gets heavy, I want to know that I'll be able to move the thing around in tight spaces. The plan is to use the Oday 22 as a weekender, and once in awhile travel for a week or two at a time. I expect that I'll take it to all the Great Lakes, and who knows, might sail to the Ocean just to say I've done it. I'm a rather adventurous soul, and intend to take this thing further then most would. I'd like to have power and reliablity. I don't think a six or an antiquated nine is going to make me feel safe and happy. And for the price and weight of a nine I can get the 15. Who knows, maybe Ill write a book! heh... Josh
I was looking at what everyone is quoting for weights, and the honda 15 is only about 10 to 15 lbs heavier then the 9.9 two strokes. I guess the reason I'd like to go with a four is because it pollutes less, is much more quiet, and the honda's have damned near every option I could want. Granted, a new one runs just a lil less then what I paid for the boat, but I'd try to find a cheaper one. For just an extra 15 lbs I wouldnt mind a charger, remote controls, electric start and five more horse. I know it wont make the boat go any faster, but I plan on doing some traveling, and will be on the Great Lakes. If the weather gets heavy, I want to know that I'll be able to move the thing around in tight spaces. The plan is to use the Oday 22 as a weekender, and once in awhile travel for a week or two at a time. I expect that I'll take it to all the Great Lakes, and who knows, might sail to the Ocean just to say I've done it. I'm a rather adventurous soul, and intend to take this thing further then most would. I'd like to have power and reliablity. I don't think a six or an antiquated nine is going to make me feel safe and happy. And for the price and weight of a nine I can get the 15. Who knows, maybe Ill write a book! heh... Josh
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