Lake Erie or Bust

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Dec 3, 2003
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None None Rochester, NY
This is the year that we will visit our neighboring Great Lake. The trip to the west end of Lake Ontario to the Welland Canal is a piece of cake. We have been briefed by others that have traversed the Welland Canal and are prepared for it. That leaves Lake Erie. We haven't ever sailed there, but have heard the stories of it being a shallow lake with storms that can show themselves very quickly. We have charts and a Ports book, so now I am asking for first-hand knowledge on the following: 1. Water depth is 1 foot down here. How is Lake Erie this season? 2. Recommendations for sailboat-friendly marinas. We draw 4.5 ft. 3. I know that Lake Erie yacht clubs do not reciprocate with ours, but can we visit some? 4. Recommendations on things to see and do on the Pennsylvania and Ohio shore. 5. What about the Canadian shore? 6. We are thinking of going further, and maybe visit the Detroit area. Any recommendations? Thanks for your help. Ken and Ruth aboard our 1990 Hunter 33.5 Water Colors
 
Oct 11, 2005
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Catalina 36 Port Dover, Ontario
Lake Erie

Ken, Not much has been developed on the CDN side. Dunnville is a suitable place and no problem with your keel and Port Dover which you can make in a day from Port Colbourne has lots of water. There is no problem for depth in the whole lake. Point off Long point can drop to over 200. In general, most of lake is 40-50 feet. Coming into Dover, keep the bouys on your right as it does get shallow as you come in and do not cut inside the outer marker. Look me up if you want, dock 3-46 (Zatarra). Friends last year went to Ontario and several clubs they came across did reciprocate LPYC members. After Dover, there isn't much on the CDN side until Pelee, which has some great places for the hook. US side is great. There's Dunkirk, Astabula, Cleveland, Vermillon, and Erie where we always go. As you are headinbg west through the Channel to get to Erie, have way in the bay, turn right and enter Presque Isle State Park. They have a great lagoon where you can anchor for free, showers, fuel. Your dingy will be usefull, as you can take to Erie downtown (Dobbons Landing) or they also have a ferry after a 20 min walk through the paved walkways in the park. $2 CDN gets you to the landing. Car rentals are very cheap and they pick you up in the lagoon and when you leave, just leave the keys at the gas dock. The club in Erie is very nice, restaurant, showers and plently of room. People will also go out of their way and probably give you a lift for your shopping supplies and they have some nice outlet malls (need a rental)We'll be there for the July 1-4 weekend and again for the first 2 weeks of August. What's the name of your Hunter?, and we'll call you on 16. Don't forget to come for a drink. We're in the basin, not up the river where there is a 2nd club. Cheers, Tom tjg321@rogers.com
 
Dec 3, 2003
544
None None Rochester, NY
Hi Tom

We are leaving Rochester Saturday, July 1st. Making our way west from Rochester to Oak Orchard (Pt. Breeze)to meet up with some friends. Then north across to OH CANADA! Making our way west after meeting up with some other friends, then on to Port Credit, Ontario for the LOHSA Hunter Rendezvous on July 6-9. After the rendezvous we head south and east to the Welland Canal. We will have to pick up one more person on the way up. Plans from that point on are not finalized yet. Boat's name is Water Colors and we monitor channel 16 while cruising. We'll try to look you up. Feel free to send e-mail to w2imo@yahoo.com. We will try to connect to the Internet whenever we can get to a hot spot or library. No cell phone connection for me. Cheers, Ken
 
Jun 2, 2004
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- - Sandusky Harbor Marina, Lake Erie
Best stops in Lake Erie

We have been cruising Lake Erie for over 20 days each of the past 7 summers on Lady Lillie (although we haven't visited the east end yet.) Here are some observations and suggestions: With the depth 30 inches above chart datum, I wouldn't worry too much about depth this year. Almost all yacht clubs will rent you a berth. You might be surprised, ILYA clubs (especially in the eastern 2/3rds of the lake) may well give you a free night without a reciprocal agreement. With the heavy usage in the Islands of the west end, you pay most places you tie up. Our favorite Canadian stops are Port Stanley, Erieau/Rondeau Bay, and Scudders at the north end of Pelee Island. US shore favorites include Erie, (anchor out in the bay in the state park in the NW corner of Erie Bay - this is the best anchorage on the lake in our opinion) Geneva State Park (for an evening walk through Geneva on the Lake), Edgewater Yacht Club at the West end of Cleveland, the anchorage north of Kelly's Island, and a mooring ball in Put-in-Bay. W have never had a bad stop on the lake, and have had lots of fun where/when we didn't expect it. I doubt the weather is much different than Lake Ontario. We are in the middle of the continent, and must expect the sudden thunderstorms that often strike here. NOAA radio and the weather TV radar picture on the web, or the marina TV will probably keep you out of trouble. We are making an 8 week trip in the other direction to the Thousand Islands next summer. Do you have any suggestions for Lake Ontario. (Our '77 Hunter 27 draws 3.5 feet.) David Lady Lillie
 
Dec 3, 2003
544
None None Rochester, NY
Thanks David

Very good information. We have sailed Lake Ontario for the past 13 years, and have our favorite spots to visit. Coming from the Welland Canal, I suggest navigating the lake in a clockwise direction. Since you have 8 weeks, there is plenty of time to see it all. Port Dalhousie. We have stayed at the Pier Marina as well as DYC. They have a quaint town that can get noisy when the college kids visit the pubs. Port Credit. We have the Hunter Rendezvous at the Credit Village Marina. The town is very close by, but just a hint of how close you can be to a town when you go to Toronto. Toronto. We have stayed at a few yacht clubs and only one marina on the several trips there. If you can get in near the National Yacht Club, you are at the doorstep of the CN Tower and downtown Toronto. Public transportation is very good and there is so much to do I couldn't begin to put it all down. Cobourg. Our next favorite spot heading east. We have stayed at places in between and most are good. One place that is closed and may still be in old ports books is Oshawa. Cobourg has an excellent marina next to the town. They even offer free bicycles for the boaters to use. Beware if you go there July 1 - 3 because the Harborfest is very popular and fills up quick. Plan on arriving 4 to 5 days early if you want a dock. It is worth going to with art and craft shows and the fair and fireworks. NICE! Presqu'ile Bay. Some of the best sailing in the area is entered here. Take the Murray Canal, enter the Bay of Quite, and head for Bellville. We usually stay at the Meyers Pier Marina. Once again, the town is in walking distance and there are many places to visit. Picton: You will have a great sail getting there at the southern extension of Adolphus Reach and Long Reach. The town is up the hill and like the others, only a short walk to all of the shops. Kingston. This will be your last stop before entering the St. Lawrence River. Last year was our first cruise to the Thousand Islands. We went in the off season in September. There are parks at several of the islands where they have some mooring balls and docks. Of course there is anchoring in many spots. The summertime I am told that it is difficult to find a ball or dock because it is a favorite summer vacation for the many power-boaters. Alexandria Bay. This is where you check into U.S. Customs on the north side of Heart Island. When we were there, we looked for sailboat masts at the marinas and didn't see many, so we went on to. Clayton. We stayed at the French Creek Marina, an odd spot with 2 docking sites, one on French Creek that you can't get to in a sailboat, and the other near a shipyard. The nice thing there is the old boat museum. A modern building with all of those lovely wooden boats. Sackets Harbor. Navy Point Marine is there and will sell you a new Catalina if you are looking for one. Nice town, great restaurants, nice visit. Oswego. Kind of industrialized, but I hear they have a great harborfest. Sodus Bay. Several marinas and a yacht club close to the village. A popular place in the summer months with several restaurants and bubs to satisfy your taste buds. Rochester. My home. We are docked at Shumway Marina even though we are members of the Genesee Yacht Club. They only have 50 docks, and with 150 members, there aren't enough to go to everybody. Don't expect to walk into Rochester, it isn't on the shore. It does have the Genesee River going through it and is the third largest city in New York. Point Breeze Oak Orchard. A quiet getaway if the lake weather is acting up. There is a good County Marine Park to dock. Not too much to see close-by. Wilson. Very nice area with marinas and yacht clubs. A short walk to town. Niagara-On-The-Lake. Back to Canada and the last stop before the Welland Canal (unless to stay at the marina there). The Sailing Club is right on the Niagara River and has quite a current. I am not sure how they work it for non-reciprocating clubs. Located in the heart of the wine belt and one of Canada's most popular theatrical centers. Up the river is Niagara Falls, where you can spend a lot of time site-seeing. WHEW! I really didn't expect to write this much. I skipped a number of places, but if you pick up a copy of The Cruising Guides "Ports" book, you will find all you every need to know. Have fun and good luck.
 

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Feb 11, 2006
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An Ohio Perspective

I am near Catawba which is near the Lake Erie islands in western Lake Erie. The lake level is up this year so navigation should be of no problem. You will not be disappointed if you make it over to South Bass and Kelly's Island. It has it all, and compares to anyplace I've traveled.
 
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East to west - American side. Erie (Nautical museum, boatbuilding school ((both ont he waterfront)), bars and college in town. Ashtabula (one bar town, good marina, friendly people - only if you HAVE to stop) Geneva State Park (Carnival town ((Geneva on the Lake))circa 1930's -fun to walk through) Grand River (a few marina's (east side) and a few bars (west side). Moderatley expensive -NO DIESEL) Chagrin River - a few yachty clubs - fuel) Cleveland - go up the river. The Conrail bridge opens on a TRAIN schedule, not marine, so forget tooting the horn. Once in the river, the bridge tenders open one after another. Go as far as behind he Jake unless you really want to see the old Industrial Cleveland. The water depth is 26 feet or better to the steel mills. Only a few bars open on the river. Shooters is expensive. Whiskey Island is a good place with a average Joe bar. Volleyball assures small crowds all week. Edgewater Marina or EYC are tow other stops, EYC is THE saiboat place for the uppa crusties (Mine (37' Irwin)is on the other side, at Edgewater Marina.) Don't forget the Tall Ships July 12 thru 15th (maybe longer). Next Rocky River. Nothing to see. Good marina at CYC. Then Vermillion. Great town for walking around. Huron is a good stop. Not much to see or do, but Harbor North is a great place with good people. Then the Islands. Use your charts. Kelleys, PIB, Pellee, take your pick. Storms. You get the same thing on Ontario. They kick up fast. Stay towards shore as lightening storms frequant the middle of the lake all summer.
 
Dec 3, 2003
544
None None Rochester, NY
Thanks Tom & others

Well... we are on our way. First things first, and that is to attend the Lake Ontario Hunter Rendezvous in Port Credit, Ontario. The stop at Whitby, Ontario is one of a couple that offer Internet access. The rendezvous is this coming weekend, then on to the Welland Canal. Weather has played a big factor in the trip so far with rain forecast almost every day. It started raining so hard today that we delayed our entrance to Whitby harbor because we couldn't see the shore line through the driving rain. Thinking of starting a blog site to document the trip. Stand by for URL address. Ken & Ruth aboard our 1990 H33.5 Water Colors
 
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