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Garry @ S/V TASHTEGO

Zeppelin Knot

See Brion Toss's book the Rigger's Apprentice
 
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Langsey

Other knots

There are three other knots you should know. 1. Square knot-to tie the same size line together. 2.Sheet bend-to tie two different size lines together, and 3. Figure eight-at the end of a line for a stopper.
 
Sep 24, 1999
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Hunter H46LE Sausalito
tarbuck?

I was under the impression that the only place where you'd find climbers still using the Tarbuck was the UK. Out here on the Left Coast, there is a near consensus among climbing schools that there are five essential knots for climbers: the Figure 8 follow through; the Double Fisherman's knot; the Ring Bend (also called the "Water Knot,") a Munter Hitch; and the venerable Prussik Knot. Check the link below, from Climbing Magazine, for how to tie them.
 
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Todd Osborne

better than Tarbuck (IMHO)

You all have probably tied a figure eight as a stopper knot (If not you should). Now instead of using the bitter end, take a bight and tie a figure eight. The resulting loop in the end is sturdy
 
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John Buckham

Knot Now!

Knots? Why Knot? No problems here, Can tie a bowline in under 4 seconds with one hand. ..of course I can't get my deck shoes to stay tied. :)
 
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William Rogers

Knots with bubbles save the day

My knotty story took place in Southern California, off Catalina in Isthmus Cove. We wrapped a mooring line around the prop on a 45ft Hunter. It was wrapped pretty good. None the less I got to go swimming in below 60 degree water in only a bathing suit. The wrap was three levels thick. I undid a few wraps before I decided it would be a good idea to take the slack off the line so I could unwrap without slicing my forearm on the prop. The line at the stern ran about 10ft deep so down I went and performed a triple rolling hitch with a double half hitch on only a breath. I then went back to the prop to finish unwrapping. To my surprise the mooring line that I had just tied off had been cut by the prop. The the other end was connected to the forward mooring so no big deal there. I told the boys to hang on to that line or we'd lose it. The Harbor Patrol saw me in the water and came over to investigate. He charged use twenty bucks for the cut line but had I not tied that rolling hitch underwater it would have been over a hundred dollars for a diver to retreive the line. Those lines have lead weights on them so they sick in a heartbeat. That would have cut into our beer fund.
 
Sep 24, 1999
1,511
Hunter H46LE Sausalito
oops

I'm told that my link to climbing magazine did not make it to the link dodah below. http://www.climbing.com/Pages/rockcraft/Ropework/rockcraft-RW_knots.html
 
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Gary Jensen

sme knots

Sailing does require the knowledge of some basic knots. The most important thing is to know their applications. The most widly used knots that I use are Bowline,(for reliability and ease of untying)---Becket or sheet bend, (for joining two lines together)---larks head,and clove hitch (securing to a post)-----stopper (to keep sheets on the boat)---half hitches,(multiple applications)---- truckers hitch (for mechanical advantage) and the proper way to wrap a cleat.. There a few others that I do use, like a fishermans bend (anchor bend) and a rolling hitch (used to fasten a line to a spar)...Its more important to know their application rather than to know how to just "tie" a particular knot..Never use a knot, like a sheep shank in a life line. A person can get caught up pretty easily on knots..Coiling,flaking,flemishing faking,bitter end,standing part, bight,turn,splice, whipping seizing, worming, parcelling, serving etc etc...Pretty easy to forget these things if you don't use them all the time..
 
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George Fletcher

Knot Too Proficient

Thank goodness for books with pictures! (I am getting better each year though)
 
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Matt

Any one knoe how to keep yourTop Siders Tied

I am tired of people telling me my shoes are untied. There has to be a better way to tie leather show strings.
 
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Tim Schaaf

Better way to tie your shoelaces.

Actually, a bow knot is a square knot with the ends looped to make it easier to untie. For some unknown reason, many peoples' bows are granny knots. A granny will either work itself loose, or be impossible to untie.....hence we use a square knot. If the granny has loops, it unties itself. So check to see how you tie your laces....bet you are using a granny! I learned this from an old salt, when I was frustrated with the same problem. I used to tie another knot on top of the bow, to keep it from untieing. Otherwise, my laces would always be dragging. Hope this helps you, and maybe some others! I am sure we are not alone.
 
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Paul

Another better way to tie your shoelaces

Try this, it works great. When you are making the part of the knot that wraps around, just make two wraps instead of one. It is still easy to untie and will stay tied.
 
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Perry

Why knot!

Don't complicate your life! 1 remove all shoe laces. 2 carry lots of duct tape!
 
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Gary Jensen

Zeppelin knot inquirery

Recently I had a discussion with a retired bosuns mate. He wrote California State manuals and trained all the professional firemen in our department on heavy rescue and knot tying. He had never come across the "Zeppelin" knot. He researched a 6000 knot encyclopedia and could not find it. He thought that if someone could explain the tying of it or post some pictures, that he could maybe identify it. Anyone with knowledge to assist us would be appreciated ...Thanks, Gary
 
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Joel

Zeppelin Knot Sources

There a a couple of variations of this knot. It is sometimes called the Rosenthal Bend since Commander Rosenthal invented it to hold down zeppelins. Othertimes, I've seen it called the "Hunter's Bend" or the "Rigger's Knot". A couple of places you can look to see it include the following: * Brion Toss's book "The Rigger's Apprentice". * http://students.washington.edu/sailing/library/telltale/sum2000/zeppelinbend.html * http://www.netidea.com/~queequeg/knotty/knots/zeppelin.htm
 
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