Is this a good head unit(130$) ? I have to replace my 20 yr old Groco HF. I see everyone is prety unanimous on the poor quality of the Jabsco so thats out! THanks for your help Benny
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I don't know the Johnson Aqua T
But I do not approve of the cheapest toilets. I pulled out two Sea Clos Manuals on my boat and replaced them with Par PH II's, The same old standard toilets that come on many high end boats, and I have been very happy with them. Wilcox Crit. used to make the best one that Had a long handle pump and about a 4" exit that was impossible to plug. It was expensive and is no longer made (I think). Maybe this is a question you should ask the expert Head Mistress.
But I do not approve of the cheapest toilets. I pulled out two Sea Clos Manuals on my boat and replaced them with Par PH II's, The same old standard toilets that come on many high end boats, and I have been very happy with them. Wilcox Crit. used to make the best one that Had a long handle pump and about a 4" exit that was impossible to plug. It was expensive and is no longer made (I think). Maybe this is a question you should ask the expert Head Mistress.
Used?
Not sure where you are located, but here in Seattle we have Second Wave, a marine consignment store, http://www.secondwave.cc/Products/Plumbing/plumbing-sub.html, and they have a large supply of used manual toilets at their Greenwood (Freemont area) store. I think this is because people are converting to electric (lord knows that's what my daughter wants me to do). You might check out that route if cash is the number one priority. For a boat nut, a visit to Second Wave is a great way to waste an hour...
Not sure where you are located, but here in Seattle we have Second Wave, a marine consignment store, http://www.secondwave.cc/Products/Plumbing/plumbing-sub.html, and they have a large supply of used manual toilets at their Greenwood (Freemont area) store. I think this is because people are converting to electric (lord knows that's what my daughter wants me to do). You might check out that route if cash is the number one priority. For a boat nut, a visit to Second Wave is a great way to waste an hour...
Headmistress??? your thoughts....
Tim I'm in chicago. I want to stick with manual and save the money to buy other toys. The admiral says thats fine. Thanks Benny
Tim I'm in chicago. I want to stick with manual and save the money to buy other toys. The admiral says thats fine. Thanks Benny
I'd avoid it...
As Rick noted, it's a clone of the Jabsco manual, which is not known for durability or quality. Their toilets may be new, but I haven't noticed that Johnson macerators--which are also a clone of the Jabsco--are any more durable. If you want to stick with manual, the Raritan PH II--or PHC, which is the same pump, but on a compact base to fit in a tighter space--is by far the best "bang for the buck"...which for about $275 has been rated the best manual toilet for several decades. I'd avoid used...most of it is either worn out or so neglected it can't work without major repairs--IF parts are even still available. And I'd also avoid ALL sanitation equipment on eBay unless you ask me to check it out first...'cuz I've seen too many "new in box" that may well be, but that box has been sitting on the shelf for as long as 25 years...so obsolete that it no longer works and worse yet, now parts still available. Taylor, the reason so many people are swapping manual for electric is because most people would rather push a button than pump a toilet a zillion times. Joseph, the two "Seaclos" toilets you replaced are Wilcox-Crittenden Headmates. The toilet you referred to with the lever type handle is the Wilcox Skipper, or even maybe the Impeerial...which WERE the best US made manual toilets, but have both been discontinued in favor the Skipper II, which is still a good toilet--and should be for upwards of $750...but still never held a candle to the British made Blake victory and "Baby Blake," which have always been the best manual toilets on the planet...and also should be, with prices at today's rate of exchange of about $2000 and $4000...but worth every penny 'cuz it's impossible to wear out either one.
As Rick noted, it's a clone of the Jabsco manual, which is not known for durability or quality. Their toilets may be new, but I haven't noticed that Johnson macerators--which are also a clone of the Jabsco--are any more durable. If you want to stick with manual, the Raritan PH II--or PHC, which is the same pump, but on a compact base to fit in a tighter space--is by far the best "bang for the buck"...which for about $275 has been rated the best manual toilet for several decades. I'd avoid used...most of it is either worn out or so neglected it can't work without major repairs--IF parts are even still available. And I'd also avoid ALL sanitation equipment on eBay unless you ask me to check it out first...'cuz I've seen too many "new in box" that may well be, but that box has been sitting on the shelf for as long as 25 years...so obsolete that it no longer works and worse yet, now parts still available. Taylor, the reason so many people are swapping manual for electric is because most people would rather push a button than pump a toilet a zillion times. Joseph, the two "Seaclos" toilets you replaced are Wilcox-Crittenden Headmates. The toilet you referred to with the lever type handle is the Wilcox Skipper, or even maybe the Impeerial...which WERE the best US made manual toilets, but have both been discontinued in favor the Skipper II, which is still a good toilet--and should be for upwards of $750...but still never held a candle to the British made Blake victory and "Baby Blake," which have always been the best manual toilets on the planet...and also should be, with prices at today's rate of exchange of about $2000 and $4000...but worth every penny 'cuz it's impossible to wear out either one.
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