Joe Trinkky Dinky

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Dec 8, 2006
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Oday 26 Starr, SC
Thank you for your post on the plant visit.

Question about use of roving guns to spray inside the hulls. Before they used the guns did they put a layer or layers of woven roving (fabric) down first after the gel coat? Using the roving gun to build up thickness where required?

As I said in my post, I can see woven roving on my boat until we start to get below the water line. My experience is that woven roving has a pattern to it whereas gun roving is random. I can see pattern in many places, especially the first couple of feet up near the deck and on the floor area under the cockpit.

When I rebuilt my boat, repairs to the keel indicated gun fill, but then we have several inches to fill the voids.

When did they change from polyester to epoxy? Did all their plants change? That is at that time they made boats in three plants as far as I have been able to tell. That is Mass., Florida and Calif.??

Your comments are appreciated by those of far from anyone who knows anything. Getting answers to questions about what happened 20 to 30 years ago just does not happen very much.

Ed K
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Jan 24, 2005
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Oday 222 Dighton, Ma.
Thank you for your post on the plant visit.

Question about use of roving guns to spray inside the hulls. Before they used the guns did they put a layer or layers of woven roving (fabric) down first after the gel coat? Using the roving gun to build up thickness where required?

As I said in my post, I can see woven roving on my boat until we start to get below the water line. My experience is that woven roving has a pattern to it whereas gun roving is random. I can see pattern in many places, especially the first couple of feet up near the deck and on the floor area under the cockpit.

When I rebuilt my boat, repairs to the keel indicated gun fill, but then we have several inches to fill the voids.

When did they change from polyester to epoxy? Did all their plants change? That is at that time they made boats in three plants as far as I have been able to tell. That is Mass., Florida and Calif.??

Your comments are appreciated by those of far from anyone who knows anything. Getting answers to questions about what happened 20 to 30 years ago just does not happen very much.

Ed K
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Ahoy there, Ed!
Yes, I believe that they did use the cloth layers after they sprayed the mold release agent and the Gel coat. I really don't know if they built your boat or any of the larger O'Day boats with epoxy. That would be a good question to ask Rudy when I see him. I need a new Jib halyard for the mast sheave block that he ordered for me. So I'll probably be seeing him soon. I'll try to get some information on it if I can. Usually, when I go down to his shop, he's either on the phone taking orders, or he's busy making up an order. I know that he uses this web site for his home page on one of his office PC's. I set it up for him myself. I really have no idea whether the other factories were using epoxy for the 222's. Lucky Bum and I have the same model and year boat, but the Fall River plant used Z-Spar on my boat, and the West Coast plant used Dwyer spars on his. If I remember, I'll also ask Rudy about Jim Hunt, too. Rudy had some O'Day boats built by a guy named Joe Deponte in Bristol RI, back in the early 1990's. I took a little tour of this plant about five years ago with a friend of mine who introduced me to Joe and his wife, who also worked in the office at the plant. They built Lima Power Boats and they also built these wind devices for tractor trailers. They use no roving gun. Everything is all hand laid with cloth, resin, and rollers. Rudy built about six O'Day 192s which he called the "Weekender" and four of them went to Japan. My friend Alden bought one of them off Rudy, and believe me, these 192's were built different and better than the 192s that O'Day built. For example, they had solid rudder blades, chain plate struts inside the cabin, stainless steel extrusions on the spars, and full batten Mains to name a few. He stopped building these boats because the price of epoxy went sky high. I went his open house in Bristol, and I remember seeing an O'Day 240 that he built. He was having the Widgeons built, but I don't think that he's building them anymore. Last year I took a tour of the Marshall Cat Boat Plant. They have their hulls built somewhere else, and have them shipped to their plant where they do all the woodwork and assembly. I may have told you this before, but Cape Dory had their plant in Taunton Ma., where I live many years ago before they moved to Maine. It's all pretty interesting stuff.
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