Is the boat sitting low in the water??

Jul 24, 2022
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Catalina 22 #6127 Dallas, TX
This clear plastic hose that drains the cockpit scuppers… Is it supposed to have some water backed up into it? It looks like the water level in the hose is sitting at the water line of the boat. Is that the way it should be?

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Mar 20, 2015
3,236
C&C 30 Mk1 Winnipeg
Yes. That is the way it works.

The bottom of the hose is below the surface of the water and the end is open. Water will fill the hose until it reaches the level of the water surface outside the boat. Same as if you shove a hose in a bucket of water.
 
Jul 24, 2022
121
Catalina 22 #6127 Dallas, TX
So that hose clamp is below the water level?
It appears that it is - Yes.

Here's what happened......... So I was out motoring around this morning just for kicks, and then "CLUNK!!" the keel hit something - felt like a tree stump. Navionics said I was in 9 ft of water. So about a minute after it happened I figured I should have a look at the bilge and double-check things. That's when I saw that the hose had worked its way loose of the fitting. Water is draining from it - not terribly fast. So I closed the valve, and put the hose back on to the fitting. It's an old, stiff hose though, and doesn't fit real securely on the fitting - it will barely slip onto it. But I opened the valve back up and no water leaked out.

Right now the valve is all the way closed. I don't know if I have the wooden plug underneath like I've read you guys talk about.

Is it Ok to leave the valve closed until I can replace that hose?
 
Apr 1, 2004
173
Catalina 34 Herring Bay Chesapeake, MD
Just my observation, I can't telling your working on this. The hose should be upgraded, clear plastic hose does jot belong on a boat. The exiting hose is not on the thru hull sufficiently and the clamp is not on correctly.
Fairly simple to replace and correct, but if hose breaks or separates any cockpit water from rain has potential to cause you major heartburn
 
Mar 20, 2015
3,236
C&C 30 Mk1 Winnipeg
Is it Ok to leave the valve closed until I can replace that hose?
Yes. Keeping that valve closed will stop the boat from sinking, until you get new hose. That is why it is there. A safety net in case the hose fails.

I don't know if I have the wooden plug underneath like I've read you guys talk about.
You likely mean an emergency plug? You would see it laying there. It is just a tapered piece of solid wood that you can jam in the hole in an amergency.

Attach them with a string to the valve, so that every thruhull has it's own matching sized plug and they are always right there when needed. The valve fails or the thruhull fails? The wood plug may stop the boat from sinking.


That hose is to drain any water from the cockpit.
Therefore, with the valve closed, the cockpit can fill with rainwater.
Just keep and eye on it,.until you install new hose and open the valve again.


I would get new, marine grade hose and put 2 stainless steel clamps where it connects to the fitting.

 
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Mar 20, 2015
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C&C 30 Mk1 Winnipeg
but if hose breaks or separates any cockpit water from rain has potential to cause you major heartburn
That and the boat would sink. The valve/thruhull and most of the hose is below water. It is the scupper drain system on an early Catalina 22.
 
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Mar 20, 2015
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Got it. Makes sense.
Make sure the part of the clamp that tightens are on opposite sides, like that in the photo at the top of that page. As that page says, The hose needs to be on far enough that both clamps actually tighten on the fitting.
 
Jul 24, 2022
121
Catalina 22 #6127 Dallas, TX
Make sure the part of the clamp that tightens are on opposite sides, like that in the photo at the top of that page. As that page says, The hose needs to be on far enough that both clamps actually tighten on the fitting.
It looks like I've got the "short male fitting" problem mentioned in the article. There’s not enough room on the fitting for 2 clamps :facepalm:
 
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Mar 20, 2015
3,236
C&C 30 Mk1 Winnipeg
It looks like I've got the "short male fitting" problem mentioned in the article. There’s not enough room on the fitting for 2 clamps :facepalm:
Common I believe. Hopefully a early C22 owner can advise which fitting to use. At the very least just a new hose and a new clamp will be a big improvement.

After all, Catalina made them with single clamps and the boat has been OK so far. Just needs more frequent inspection.
 
Jul 24, 2022
121
Catalina 22 #6127 Dallas, TX
Common I believe. Hopefully a early C22 owner can advise which fitting to use. At the very least just a new hose and a new clamp will be a big improvement.

After all, Catalina made them with single clamps and the boat has been OK so far. Just needs more frequent inspection.
For sure. :thumbup:
 
Jul 7, 2004
8,485
Hunter 30T Cheney, KS
That hose is barely over the barbs enough to single clamp it. It should be on at least another inch to cover the barbs. Is that factory or did a PO replace it?
Double clamp both ends. If that end is always below the waterline, it could sink your boat if it came off. My old McGregor thru hull was above the waterline.
 
Jul 24, 2022
121
Catalina 22 #6127 Dallas, TX
That hose is barely over the barbs enough to single clamp it. It should be on at least another inch to cover the barbs. Is that factory or did a PO replace it?
Double clamp both ends. If that end is always below the waterline, it could sink your boat if it came off. My old McGregor thru hull was above the waterline.
The very end of the hose (about a half inch) has broken off right there at the end you're looking at. I took off both hoses, drove over to West Marine, closed on Sunday, went back to the boat and tried to put both hoses back on. The troublemaker hose wouldn't go over the barbs at all, so I tried it on the starboard side, seemed to fit better lengthwise, but still couldn't get it on the barbs, so I took a butane torch and warmed up the end of the hose to soften it, now it would slip over the barbs.

Put the clamps back on and opened the valve > No leaking. Went ahead and closed the valve until I can finish the job.

I'm still going to replace both hoses and see if I can get 2 clamps on each connection.
 
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