Is More Chain Better Or Just Ballast?

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Rick D

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Jun 14, 2008
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Hunter Legend 40.5 Shoreline Marina Long Beach CA
I would be able to reduce my bow anchor weight by almost half switching from the stock anchor on my boat to a Fortress. I have 50’ of chain on my 40’ sailboat. Your site recommends 6’ chain per 25’ of anchoring depth. Since I rarely anchor on over 80’, the chain I carry seems more than adequate. Is there any advantage to more chain or all chain rode from an anchoring security standpoint? Is there some mythology associated with chain rode? (There was an anchoring article in one of the sailing magazines that started out talking about the five hundred pounds and 400’ of chain. I can’t say more since I quit reading at that point! Talk about bad boat trim.)
 
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Brian Sheehan, Fortress Anchors

A hot topic, for sure, with many varying opinions! We think a combination of rope and chain work best: Rope for the elasticity when the wind and seas are up, and chain for the chafe protection and for the weight to help keep the pull on the anchor horizontal. All chain rodes are certainly stronger and more durable than a chain/rope rode, but then you have to ask: What works best with the anchoring system aboard the boat, whether human or mechanical? An all chain rode is great for a boat that can comfortably handle the weight and has an electric anchor windlass. However, a rode of 6’ of chain for each 25' of water depth will work equally well.
 
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Roger Mummah

More Chain is More Better

Endless Summer is a Hunter 31 and we have four anchors. One is the toy Danforth that came with the boat. We also have a Fortress FX-16, a Delta 22 lb and a Delta 35 lb. When we are in the Bahamas, we can be at anchor for weeks at a time, so we want to make sure we stay put. We built a custom set of anchor rollers for the bow and that is where both Deltas live. Each has 60' of chain and 200 feet of 1/2" nylon 3 strand anchor line. It is the weight of the chain (and anchor sentinel) that keep the pull on the anchor as horizontal as possible. If there is much vertical component to the pull on the anchor it WILL become unstuck and you WILL drag. Since we always try to anchor in about 10' of water and put out 7:1 scope, 60' of chain makes sense and we still have a good length of nylon to provide shome shock absorbing. Good luck.
 

Rick D

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Jun 14, 2008
7,184
Hunter Legend 40.5 Shoreline Marina Long Beach CA
Not So Sure Roger

I always thoght more chain was better, but that assumes the anchor manufacturers are mis-advising the public. I just don't believe they would. It isn't just Fortress that has similar recommendations. I cut back from 40 to 10 feet in my Vision 32 and never had a problem in sand with a hi-test danforth with plenty of scope. In fact, after several weeks, it had to be powered out and it would bury itself so that only the top of the shank would show. Also, the stern anchor was used with just 3' of coated chain and that little fluke just kept burying too. I don't understand why you avoid a fluke anchor in sand. That's their strength. Regardless, you are doing it all the time and have a system you trust and works for you, and that is what counts. Thanks for sharing your experience. Rick D.
 
Dec 2, 2003
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Rick, for me I'm sure.

More is better. For 25 years I used two anchors off the bow with short chain and rope. My wife and I enjoyed the teamwork this method required and we were showing off too. But while talking with a cruising fleet friend I learned something that has stayed with me. He said that one year he was crewing on a large sailboat. The boat was in Lahaina, Maui. The owner bought new anchor chain and it was delivered to the harbor beach. My friend and a dozen other guys went to the delivery truck to get the chain. They figured they could just get the loose end from the barrel and pull it to the boat instead of having to figure out how to carry the barrel. They found the end and off they went. Just like a tug-of-war. They dragged the chain in the sand. My friend said the party ended after 50'. The chain refused to move. I forget how they put the chain aboard but it wasn't by dragging it. I also recalled a passage in a Pardey book. It said that the anchor chain weight problem can be mitigated by using 1/4" HT chain. Strong and light. During our refit and the installation of new ground tackle systems, I recalled those stories and tried to apply them to our system without abandoning our old tried and true (mostly) two anchor system. (call it Bahamanian moore or what-ever) Anyway, The boat was given dual matching rollers. One was for the Fortress and one for the Bruce. The Bruce would be kept to the chain on the windless for dimensional reasons. The Fortress could be retrieved with the drum on the windlass. I had planed to use a chain/rope rode on the Bruce, but one thing led to another and we ended up with 200 feet of all 1/4" HT chain on the Bruce. That turned out to be the end of the story. The Fortress has yet to enter the water. The poor holding Bruce, (with rope rode) now works wonderfully. Only once this summer did it fail to set on the first try, then it grabbed. And it's so easy. When pulling into an anchorage we don't have to look for room to put out two anchors. We don't upset the neighbors by having to place a hook next to them before we move off to drop the second hook 200, or more, feet away. And we don't move around the anchor. After setting the Bruce, the boat pulls forward again as the chain drops to the bottom in an attempt to form a heap. Then the boat just sits in one spot. Cool, and so easy. But we did NOT have severe conditions or even anything close to bad weather and the tidal flow where we have been playing was minimal BUT it's still so much easier! After all those years we look forward to anchoring now. It's fun, not a chore. My setup is on my web site. See photo's #8,9,60-64 and then 133. Oh, the boat sits level too and floats an inch above the waterline at the BOW too!
 

Rick D

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Jun 14, 2008
7,184
Hunter Legend 40.5 Shoreline Marina Long Beach CA
Gee, Fred...

...a cruising boat with a visible waterline? *bzz
 
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