The plywood walls of my head have a teak finish on one side and a painted surface on the other. The painted surface is water resistent for use of the shower. The painted surface has delaminated, become brittle and is cracking off. I wish to refinish this surface. Does anyone know what kind of paint this is and where I can get it?
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Don't think so.
Charlie: I do not think that this is painted. I believe that it is melamine. A plastic type coating. The best bet would be to put formica on there if it would stick. Probably still need more input from others that have done this.
Charlie: I do not think that this is painted. I believe that it is melamine. A plastic type coating. The best bet would be to put formica on there if it would stick. Probably still need more input from others that have done this.
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Paul Akers
Pheno-seal
I had the blistering and cracking at the base of the walls about 3" up from the bottom. I removed the blisters with a scraper and used a squee-gee to spread and level Pheno-seal (in a caulking-type tube) to seal the area. This was 5 years ago and haven't had a problem. There's another person on this board who did the walls in his boat's head, the same as you need to. Maybe he'll see this post and answer with the product he used. I'll email him and let him know.
I had the blistering and cracking at the base of the walls about 3" up from the bottom. I removed the blisters with a scraper and used a squee-gee to spread and level Pheno-seal (in a caulking-type tube) to seal the area. This was 5 years ago and haven't had a problem. There's another person on this board who did the walls in his boat's head, the same as you need to. Maybe he'll see this post and answer with the product he used. I'll email him and let him know.
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Stephen Ostrander
Did it
Steve's right, what you have is melamine and the vinyl coating is flaking off. This stuff should never be used in a marine environment. The BEST fix (not the cheapest or the easiest) is to re-laminate using Formica, but you have to chip all the flaky stuff off first.
Steve's right, what you have is melamine and the vinyl coating is flaking off. This stuff should never be used in a marine environment. The BEST fix (not the cheapest or the easiest) is to re-laminate using Formica, but you have to chip all the flaky stuff off first.
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howard meyer
vertical laminate
it's not paint, it's melamine.. best thing to do is remove the panel and then laminate a piece of vertical grade plastic laminate (formica) over it. On our V32, Pionite brand tawny white matched the melamine. just hit the melamine with sandpaper enough to remove the glaze and you can use contact cement to apply the laminate., or if you know someone in the cabinet business they could knock it out for you.
it's not paint, it's melamine.. best thing to do is remove the panel and then laminate a piece of vertical grade plastic laminate (formica) over it. On our V32, Pionite brand tawny white matched the melamine. just hit the melamine with sandpaper enough to remove the glaze and you can use contact cement to apply the laminate., or if you know someone in the cabinet business they could knock it out for you.
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David
Charlie, I am beginning to have the same problem in my 1988 H33.5. The delamination is occurring at the base of the lavoratory and on the vertical panel in the aft quarter berth. Some type of textured paint would at least be a stop-gap cosmetic measure; however, I have not found a suitable paint yet The best fix is to apply a formica laminate. I found 4x8 sheets at Home Depot for approximately $60. I watched a guy in the local boatyard use a heat gun to strip off the vinyl melamine coating and it came off easily. I would think that a quick sanding would help to smooth out the underlying board to elimate possible air bubbles beneath the formica as it is cemented to the backing board. I haven't addressed my problem yet because the formica option will be quite labor intensive.
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Mickey Goodman
Replacment of Head Wall Material
I have just redone the wall in my Legend 37. My problem was not the delamination of the wall but a fire in the Nav section caused the vinyl wallpaper to discolor beyond being cleanable. When I stripped the old wallpaper it appeared that the prior owner put an adhesive, not wallpaper paste, on the wall/wallpaper to make it stick. I used a cloth backed wallpaper with 3M spray adhesive which worked great. If I had to do it all over again I would have purchased a 4'X8' sheet of fiberglass panel from Home Depot for about $25.00 and used that to cover the wall. Therefore no maintenance and absolutely water proof. I used fiberglass panel to replace the covers on the ceiling of my cabin where the overhead lights fit into the cabin. It worked great, was paintable to match the gelcoat and it looks just like it was original. Once you put the fiberglass in the head you will have no maintenance. If you are your significant other wants a pattern on it you can paint or even wallpaper over it. It is light weight so you wouldn't be adding any weight to the boat.
I have just redone the wall in my Legend 37. My problem was not the delamination of the wall but a fire in the Nav section caused the vinyl wallpaper to discolor beyond being cleanable. When I stripped the old wallpaper it appeared that the prior owner put an adhesive, not wallpaper paste, on the wall/wallpaper to make it stick. I used a cloth backed wallpaper with 3M spray adhesive which worked great. If I had to do it all over again I would have purchased a 4'X8' sheet of fiberglass panel from Home Depot for about $25.00 and used that to cover the wall. Therefore no maintenance and absolutely water proof. I used fiberglass panel to replace the covers on the ceiling of my cabin where the overhead lights fit into the cabin. It worked great, was paintable to match the gelcoat and it looks just like it was original. Once you put the fiberglass in the head you will have no maintenance. If you are your significant other wants a pattern on it you can paint or even wallpaper over it. It is light weight so you wouldn't be adding any weight to the boat.
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Charlie Fritts
Thanks for the help.
Thank you for the help everyone. I did the repair last weekend. The original material was melamine. After removing the melamine I applied contact cement and stuck on laminate sheeting. I used a laminate trimmer on the curved edges. The laminate sheeting, purchased at Menard's, matches the color and texture of the melamine perfectly.
Thank you for the help everyone. I did the repair last weekend. The original material was melamine. After removing the melamine I applied contact cement and stuck on laminate sheeting. I used a laminate trimmer on the curved edges. The laminate sheeting, purchased at Menard's, matches the color and texture of the melamine perfectly.
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