Interested in Hunter 40 - what to watch out for?

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Feb 26, 2009
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2 40 Kemah
My dad is currently in the market for a Hunter 40, there are several in our area for sale. Although, he is working in Africa right now, so I'm helping him select it. What are some issues should I look out for with these boats? Are the newer models any better than the older models?

Thanks in advance for your help.
 
Jun 8, 2004
282
Hunter 49 60803 Lake Erie
My previous boat was a 1985 Hunter 40. The only problem I ever experienced that was frustrating was the holding tanks. The rear one was nothing more then a lid glassed over a void betweem two stringers near the chart table. Any time the hull flexed big in rough seas the lid broke lose and sewage seeped out in to the bilge. So ever three years or so I had to take up the floor and reglass the lid. I know some folks fixed it by adding a real tank under the main cabin berth or in the rear cabin closet so there are solutions. The only other drag was the fact that the keel was iron vs lead so there was rust clean up to be done on the keel every spring as I painted the bottom. Over all the boat was fun to sail, easy to single hand, comfortable and mostly worry free. If you have any specific questions I'd be glad answer any I can. There are some pictures of my old 40 on my owners page in the "old boat" picture album.

Kevin
s/v Maelstrom
 
Sep 25, 2008
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Alden 50 Sarasota, Florida
I am admittedly biased but if he is interested in that size, he might do better looking at the 40,5 Legend series which should be had for the same price depending on age and condition. Gets him a lead keel and a real holding tank as well as some dimensional differences.
 
Jul 1, 2004
567
Hunter 40 St. Petersburg
My opinions

which are worth what you paid... :)

First of all, with all due respect to Don, the 40.5 is a darn fine boat but they're hardly in the same price range. If you'll look at Yachtworld you'll see that they range from between 100K to 150K which is a good 50K more than the 40's go for. Of course, the 40.5 is newer and in many areas I consider it to be a better built boat. If your dad has the scratch I'd say to absolutely look at one.

Kevin is spot on about the aft holding tank but I've managed a more permanent fix.

In any case, here's my response to your inquiry:

Note that my comments refer to our experiences only and focus on the '84-'86 models. The '87-'90 boats are mostly the same but incorporated many minor design changes.

Cons:

Tankage is one issue. Not capacity, but rather having ALL fuel in one tank and ALL water in one tank. Aluminum for the fresh water tank is a questionable choice of material. There are no access ports.

Aft holding tank built into hull grid is poorly executed, small and prone to leaks.

The steel anchors molded into the grid for the chainplate tie-rod system are mild steel and subject to deterioration with any water intrusion.

The joinery is pedestrian at best.

Lightweight Beckson plastic ports ('84-'86.)

Most of the cabinet doors aren't positively latched.

The cockpit lazarettes aren't gasketed and lockable.

The steep and tall companionway can be treacherous in a wild seaway although I've only managed to fall down ours while anchored in calm waters. Go figure.

Only one anchor roller.

Stock 40's are equipped with CNG for the stove. You won't find it outside the US. You may want to convert to LPG.

Stock 40's have a woefully inadequate house DC bank and charging/monitoring system. DC wiring is untinned.

Two heads on a 40' cruising boat is ridiculous. The H40's forward head is poorly plumbed and so small as to be nearly unuseable.

Most 40's are relatively inexpensive (that's why we own one.) However, that also means that most on the market have been bought and abused by less than knowledgeable people who bought with little money, did no meaningful maintenance because they couldn't afford it, or worse, performed those dreaded "owner modifications." There are many beat-to-shit H40's out there that aren't worth owning. Survey REALLY carefully.


Pros:

It's a great looking boat.

It sails beautifully. It's fast.

It's inexpensive.

It's got a sumptuous salon and aft stateroom for a 40' boat.

There are MANY more issues, both good and bad, but these are the biggy's as far as I'm concerned. Most are repairable at which point you have to answer the "is it worth it to me?" question. For us it definitely has been.

As with all boats, it's all about trade-offs, but after 9 years and nearly 10,000 miles we're happy to have ours.

You can check us out at our web site.

www.svanthem.com
 

Vinny

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Apr 6, 2006
343
Boat Less New Bern NC
I agree with Rick.

For the money they are a good boat. The later model 1990 (1990 was the last year) has a different interior than the early ones. It has more wood and less plastic. Ours is one of the first 1990 Hulls with a number of 285. She was sold at the Annapolis Boat Show in October of 1989.

There is a replacement holding tank made by Ronco that holds 19.5 US Gal available. It goes in with very little real work. The water tank does need a Beckson inspection port but that is on my to do list. Also the Beckson ports have been replaced with Lewmars.

Other wise "What Rick Said".
 
Jul 1, 2004
567
Hunter 40 St. Petersburg
There's two interiors

You've apparently been looking at pre '88 40's. After that the layout was massaged a bit. The nav station faces forward, the salon table is fixed and the galley is extended a bit. The exterior received a few changes too but all-in-all it's pretty much the same boat.
 

Vinny

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Apr 6, 2006
343
Boat Less New Bern NC
Re: There's two interiors

That is the same as my 1990. I did not know that they did that in 88 as well. I thought it was started in 89 with the first 90 model year.
 
Feb 26, 2009
14
2 40 Kemah
:D I think so! They put in an offer on Saturday which was accepted, we're just waiting on the results of the survey before we finalize things. it was a bank repo so we don't have any info about the boat other than what we can see in front of us. i'll be back with oodles of questions i'm sure.
 

Vinny

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Apr 6, 2006
343
Boat Less New Bern NC
:D I think so! They put in an offer on Saturday which was accepted, we're just waiting on the results of the survey before we finalize things. it was a bank repo so we don't have any info about the boat other than what we can see in front of us. i'll be back with oodles of questions i'm sure.
Good for you. I'm sure you will enjoy her.

Just e-mail me with any questions and I will try to help.
 
Feb 26, 2009
14
2 40 Kemah
Well its official, we now own a 89 Hunter 40! My dad flies in from Africa Sunday evening at 6PM and guess where we are going first thing?

The survey came back OK, a few minor issues, the AC and refridgeration don't work, and there is a little hull blister issue, but it was a GOOD deal. Looks like a shoal draft, should be good for galveston bay. Was the feathering prop standard on these boats?
 

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Vinny

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Apr 6, 2006
343
Boat Less New Bern NC
Well its official, we now own a 89 Hunter 40!

Was the feathering prop standard on these boats?
Congratulations and welcome.:)

I believe the standard prop was a two blade fixed. Or I should say mine was.

Good luck with her.
 
Mar 18, 2009
3
2 40 Kemah, Tx
the N. O.

Thanks for your input everbody, I've finally gotten a chance to get logged in and reply , Pope is visiting today so the president of Angola has declared it a holiday, As my son said we made an offer (i thought was kinda low) but it was excepted by the bank , guess the just wanted there equity out of it. Still have a lot to find out as the survey missed a few things. But it will be great fun exploring. Don't know if any of you are on Galveston bay but if so drop me a note and we'll see if we can't get together discuss pro and cons and maybe run out to number 2 and go sailing. Were thinking of maybe having a double bayou weekend soon as well. one of the first projects is to change the name. understand the current name means trouble maker in spanish. doesn't sound like the best way to start a relationShip. I'm sure I'll be getting in touch on one forum or another once I have my bearings

Guy
 
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