Insurance

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Aug 24, 2005
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Nassau 34 Olcott, NY
I do not follow this site on a regular basis, so maybe this is a topic that has been covered before. If there is a search option I missed it. Anyways, I am alarmed at my insurance rates through Boat US. Last year it was $901, this year it is $1446. In 15 years I have never filed a claim. Premiums used to be around $500 a year. I would like to switch, but that would probably require a new survey. I am on the Great Lakes where there is no real weather threat.
 
Feb 10, 2004
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Hunter 40.5 Warwick, RI
Unfortunately yacht insurance is not a "One and Done" deal. In order to pay the most reasonable amount for the best coverage you need to get quotes almost every year. You may need to get a C & V survey (Condition and Value) for a new insurance company, but think of it as an opportunity to have your boat examined for potential issues. I just had one done a month ago for $12/foot. The surveyor spent 5-6 hours and issued me a 20+ page report.
My last insurance carrier suddenly refused to issue an "Agreed Value" policy, and I considered the "Actual Cash Value" policy they offered undesirable. I shopped a few quotes and got a new policy I wanted for several hundred dollars lower than my original offer.
 
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Jan 19, 2010
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Hobie 16 & Rhodes 22 Skeeter Charleston
I use State Farm and pay about $300-ish. I have a $1M liability, environmental and an agreed value of $15,000
 
Jul 27, 2011
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Bavaria 38E Alamitos Bay
For yachts more than 20 years old you likely will need a survey. BOAT US upped my rate last year and again this year on the renewal. :( Not by as much as yours, however. Now that it is run as part of GEICO, it’s not the same company we once had. So I looked around, got a few quotes but all pending a survey, an out-of-water survey except for one. I was also looking to move the boat to a different marina last year and encountered survey requirements for that as well. So, I had the survey done for the marina move, which was in-water so not as much $$, and punted on the insurance change. The change in premium at BOAT US was less than the cost of the full-on survey. Also, I was not finding so much improvement in premiums to justify it. In fact, none. But, I’m not happy with the insurance situation at the moment. In my case the ”Agreed Value” of the policy is a bit less than the (estimated) “Actual Cash Value” of the yacht. So it’s a bit underinsured. My part of the “shared risk of loss”, I suppose. Just trying to keep costs down as much as I can.

Regarding surveys, I’ve yet to have one done that reported anything to me about my boat that I didn’t already know. I’ve done three altogether in 30 yr of boat ownership. I’m not enthusiastic about having them done. With the aging out of the folks who really knew what they were doing, I see them as not a good value. I’ve not seen evidence that a young person in his 30’s, even 40’s, never a boat owner, can produce a survey worth its price. Just checking boxes off a list. Most of what went into the report of the last one was information I supplied, or that was gotten from spec sheets. It’s really a report designed for a third party, not an owner, IMO.
 
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Apr 11, 2010
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Hunter 38 Whitehall MI
Regarding your question on search. At the top of the forum page there is a search box. It’s right next to the Sailboat Owners logo. It’s very useful and yes there are several long running threads on insurance questions.