Insurance Question

May 6, 2020
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Catalina 30 San Diego
First boat owner here, just bought a Cat 30. BoatUS/Geico just declined to insure me for 300K bodily injury per person, 500K per accident, 100K property damage liability, which is what my marina is requesting. Anyone have any other insurance suggestions? Progressive maxes out at 250K/500k/100k. Is the marina's insurance request normal?
 
Jan 1, 2006
7,615
Slickcraft 26 Sailfish
Often it's the age of the boat that attracts the INSC's ire. They don't like old boats. Ask Boat USA if that is the issue. There are insurance brokers who will find a company to insure an old boat but it will be more expensive. Flip through the back of a sail magazine.
As for the marina they are probably given those numbers by their INSC.
 
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Jan 19, 2010
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Hobie 16 & Rhodes 22 Skeeter Charleston
He was only trying to get liability... so that seems odd. I have statefarm for my boat. And I only have liability insurance since I did not pay that much for the boat. But I went high on the liability side so I won't get caught with a high payout if something goes sideways.

... not saying how high cause I don't want to give you all any ideas about running yourself over with my boat.:biggrin:

But you should be able to find someone else to cover those numbers.
 
Jan 5, 2017
2,401
Beneteau First 38 Lyall Harbour Saturna Island
When we kept a boat at Blaine, Wash. they wanted 3 million $ liability.
 

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Jun 14, 2008
7,186
Hunter Legend 40.5 Shoreline Marina Long Beach CA
If it's a liability-only policy you need, you can broaden your selection to many other insurers. I suggest you first try your homeowner/vehicle insurer. There are certain enhancements a true marine insurer might offer such as longshoreman's liability, but those tend to be a rare risk. Good luck.
 
Jan 11, 2014
13,005
Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
Most marinas require liability insurance.

Insurance liability premiums are based on risk of the insured and the insured limits. Factors that contribute to risk are driving record, credit history, claims history on all insurance policies, and other factors. Have a problem on any of those and the chances of getting insured decline.
 
Jan 1, 2006
7,615
Slickcraft 26 Sailfish
I got dropped by my Umbrella policy because according to my broker my boat was too old. INSC's know the numbers. There is a reason, besides greed (And they are that), to avoid old boats. Maybe it's just the upgrade in electrical codes - the source of a lot of fires. If the INSC industry had to cover one of these boatyard fires, which a few of had been significant losses, it would make a difference.
 
May 6, 2020
15
Catalina 30 San Diego
I thought it was weird. I have good driving record, great credit, no claims. The lady on the phone wasn't rude, but her tone made it sound like I was stupid for buying a 30' sailboat for my first boat. I was so confused, she made it sound like there was no way they were going to insure a new boat owner who has a 30' boat.
 
May 6, 2020
15
Catalina 30 San Diego
I found out that progressive offers 500K combined single limit, which based on my understanding is basically up to 500K personal/500k per accident/500k property. So I'm going to ask the marina tomorrow if that is acceptable.
 

Rick D

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Jun 14, 2008
7,186
Hunter Legend 40.5 Shoreline Marina Long Beach CA
I found out that progressive offers 500K combined single limit, which based on my understanding is basically up to 500K personal/500k per accident/500k property. So I'm going to ask the marina tomorrow if that is acceptable.
There you go! Let us know; they should accept it.
 
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Oct 22, 2014
23,250
CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
When we kept a boat at Blaine, Wash. they wanted 3 million $ liability.
Michael That is because the boat was Canadian. There is the financial exchange rate. What is it now 30 to 1?

Now days you could never keep your boat in Blaine. You would never get to see her.
 
Jan 5, 2017
2,401
Beneteau First 38 Lyall Harbour Saturna Island
Michael That is because the boat was Canadian. There is the financial exchange rate. What is it now 30 to 1?

Now days you could never keep your boat in Blaine. You would never get to see her.
Maybe, John. However they specified U.S. dollars and way back then our dollar was a $ 1.10 U.S. I think they were afraid I would spill some oil and you know how hard that is to clean up.
 
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Oct 22, 2014
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CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
HB That is 30 USD to 1 Looney right?

I thouhgt that was the quoted exchange rate when I tried to play poker with a couple of Canadian boat men...
 
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Feb 21, 2013
4,638
Hunter 46 Point Richmond, CA
......Anyone have any other insurance suggestions?............Is the marina's insurance request normal?
I am insured through Markel Marine Insurance through Twin Rivers Insurance Agency in Antioch, CA (an insurance broker). Novamar is another. Alternatively, seek out an insurance broker like I did. Below is my coverage, which is acceptable all over the SF Bay.

Marina's in the SF Bay generally require $500,000 liability protection and indemnity and of course, name the marina as an additional assured.

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Jan 5, 2017
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Beneteau First 38 Lyall Harbour Saturna Island
HB That is 30 USD to 1 Looney right?

I thouhgt that was the quoted exchange rate when I tried to play poker with a couple of Canadian boat men...
I don’t play poker John but at those odds I might be up for a game!
 
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