Installation of shorepower on H33C

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MickP

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Nov 20, 2012
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Hunter 33 Charleston
I need to install a breaker panel and galvanic isolator on our 1981 H33. It looks like there used to be a breaker panel below the port quarter berth. Can i ask where others have installed theirs? Also, this is looking like it might be > 10ft from the shore power socket and so will require an additional breaker. Have others done this, and if so where was the additional breaker installed? Shore power inlet is above the engine rev counter/ignition panel.

Thanks all
 
Mar 6, 2012
357
Hunter H33 (limited edition cabin top) Bayou Chico
my breaker panel is directly behind the entrance stairs and directly above the double doors for accessing the battery tray.
 
Jun 9, 2008
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Back in the day, before the products we now have were available, dealers (and boat owners) used to put in shore power systems with home type Square D breaker boxes, which are no longer up to code anymore. They also used solid core wiring found in home electrical systems, which also are not code anymore. You need to use a marine breaker panel with stranded wire (3 conductor - white, black and green). Sorry if I am telling you stuff you already know. You need to have a panel that has at the very minimum a double breaker for the shore power coming into your boat. By double breaker, I mean it breaks both the positive and negative sides, if there is an overload. If you have other loads (like a battery charger) hard wired into the system, then you need a breaker for each load. Each breaker, whether it be a main breaker (double) or single, will have switches on them so that you can switch off the device at will. So, depending on how many items that run off of your shore power depends on how big your panel should be to accommodate all of the breakers for each device (load). Blue Seas makes such panels. The panel itself should be installed in a place where you can easily access it just like your 12v electrical panel is. Perhaps there is space next to it where you can cut a hole to accept the size AC panel that you choose. If not, then perhaps another location and if not, then maybe you or someone for you can build a box/cabinet to house the new panel. Whatever you do, if it can possibly be touched by someone on the back side of the panel, then you need to protect it with a backing box so no one accidentally electrocutes themselves accidentally. Breaker sizes (like 5A to 30A, for example) match the load device you are using. If you have outlets to plug in AC products, you need to have GFCI outlets near water sources like the galley or head to be up to code. This should get your started.
 
Jun 8, 2004
1,065
C&C Frigate 36 St. Margarets Bay, Nova Scotia
Follow all the ABYC recommended practices for your AC installation. The Blue Sea's website will give you lots of ideas on what's available as well as good information, including a summary of the latest ABYC requirements. Blue Seas System electrical products are available through the store here at SailboatOwners.com as well. If you are not electrically savvy, consider hiring a marine electrician. Improperly wired 120 VAC systems can hurt people and cause equipment damage.
 

MickP

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Nov 20, 2012
65
Hunter 33 Charleston
Thanks for all your thoughts, very helpful, and i will check out the BlueSeas website. I was going to try the installation myself but get a marine tech to check it before i plugged in. I guess i was hoping for some other locations that people had used for their breaker panels, but i guess every boat is different - eg i don't have double doors to the battery compartment behind my companionway steps
 

Paul F

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Jun 3, 2004
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Hunter 1980 - 33 Bradenton
You can take a look at the owner modifications. I think someone has put the panel box up on the port-side bulkhead. Mine is in the original position below the port quarter berth and works well there. One safety modification I made was to run the shore power through a GFCI outlet placed on the galley cabinet wall before going to the power distribution panel. When wired properly this protects all down stream outlets and power. This needs to be checked after you do the wiring to assure protection.
 
Sep 30, 2010
130
hunter 33 Hunter Morehead city
I did a complete wiring job on my 33 with shore power and an inverter wired into a distribution switch and a new panel for all 12 and 120 circuits, relocated the panel above the quarter birth. I hope this photo helps.
 

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MickP

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Nov 20, 2012
65
Hunter 33 Charleston
Bugaloo,
thanks for that, looks like a neat job. Can i ask where your shore power inlet is, and if it is > 10 ft from the distribution switch? If so, where and how did you add the initial breaker?

PaulF,
maybe i misunderstood, but you are putting a GFCI socket in between the shore power inlet and the distribution panel?

Anyone,
I will need an additional breaker as the distribution panel is > 10ft from the shore power inlet, but i can't find a 'standalone' one. They all seem to need a panel. Does anyone attach a 2 pole breaker to the back of the shore power inlet? Anything i am missing?

Appreciate any help on this
 

Ed H

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Sep 15, 2010
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Hunter 33_77-83 Regent Point Marina, Virginia
Mick- If possible, you may want to move your panel. Mine is in the original location (below the quarter berth) and almost every weekend at least once we will have something stop functioning because the breaker was accidentally kick/pushed into an off position. It used to cause a long search, but now we straight to the panel. Still, the result could be something bad.
 
Sep 30, 2010
130
hunter 33 Hunter Morehead city
My shore power inlet is on the stbd side next to the engine inst. pnl and the double pole breaker and box is just behind it. It is a double 30 amp breaker so it can break the hot and the grd. Most electric supply stores should be able to help you.
 
Feb 14, 2010
156
Hunter H33C Quincy, MA
I did a complete wiring job on my 33 with shore power and an inverter wired into a distribution switch and a new panel for all 12 and 120 circuits, relocated the panel above the quarter birth. I hope this photo helps.
bugaloo - what year is your boat? your panel installation looks impressive. . . the pictures you posted, are they shots of different panels?
 
Sep 30, 2010
130
hunter 33 Hunter Morehead city
1978, I removed the pnl under the qbirth and installed another one above it. I built a wall above for the pnl to mount on. I rewired the complete boat (almost finished) the pnl is the same one with a few mods, it was bought on ebay for $35.00 and modified after I figured out what was to be on it. I can post more photos if u r interested
 

Ed H

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Sep 15, 2010
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Hunter 33_77-83 Regent Point Marina, Virginia
1978, I removed the pnl under the qbirth and installed another one above it. I built a wall above for the pnl to mount on. I rewired the complete boat (almost finished) the pnl is the same one with a few mods, it was bought on ebay for $35.00 and modified after I figured out what was to be on it. I can post more photos if u r interested
Yes, we definitely want more pictures- how you built the wall, everything... Thanks
 
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