Install Fog Hailer or Not?

Jul 27, 2011
5,144
Bavaria 38E Alamitos Bay
I'm sure this has been covered somewhere prior to now; but I'm wondering how many sail boaters actually install automated fog hailers that operate from the VHF? Doing so requires installation of the hailer (horn) itself (somewhere). But where's a good spot? I just can't see standing in the cockpit attempting to manually blow an air horn every two minutes while sailing (and while also watching the radar and chart plotter, etc.). Would need one crew dedicated to that (horn) task alone. And who would even hear manual horns if motoring in the fog? Planning a trip to a fog-prone area (Central California Coast) and would welcome opinions on the matter!
 
May 4, 2005
4,062
Macgregor 26d Ft Lauderdale, Fl
if it were me, I would install a 5k (or bigger) radar and do whatever is legally required...

like you said, who's really going to hear it far enough away to help.
(@ 2mi intervals )
 

Tim R.

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May 27, 2004
3,626
Caliber 40 Long Range Cruiser Portland, Maine
I have one and use it every time it is foggy. The horn is mounted on the front of the mast just below the radar.

Not many folks will hear it over their own engine but a boat sailing or paddling will.

And it meets the legal requirement.
 
Sep 25, 2008
544
Bristol 43.3 Perth Amboy
I have one the is part of my SH VHF. Speaker on mast. Very loud. I'm happy with it.
 
Sep 25, 2008
1,096
CS 30 Toronto
VHF fog horn

Many VHF radio has fog horn builtin, some even has listening capability. E.g. Standard Horizon.

You just need to hook up a 8 ohm horn speaker. Doesn't have to be permanently mounted. I have one that just plug in to the VHF and clamp on the bimini frame when needed.




I have one and use it every time it is foggy. The horn is mounted on the front of the mast just below the radar.

Not many folks will hear it over their own engine but a boat sailing or paddling will.

And it meets the legal requirement.
 
Feb 6, 1998
11,722
Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
I have one and use it every time it is foggy. The horn is mounted on the front of the mast just below the radar.

Not many folks will hear it over their own engine but a boat sailing or paddling will.

And it meets the legal requirement.
Ditto...

If you want louder the FogMate can be used to drive a regular horn, and these are LOUD. Had a FogMate and it sounds liked a light house with the right horn. I used an Ongaro horn..


FogMate
http://store.hamiltonmarine.com/browse.cfm/fogmate-automated-horn-controller-12-volt-155798/4,12004.html


The VHF hailer horns are still decent though..
 
Jan 22, 2008
8,050
Beneteau 323 Annapolis MD
I can't put my finger on the web site, but there is a CD with multiple horn signals on it. Maybe someone else has the link- or the CD?
 

Blitz

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Jul 10, 2007
714
Seidelmann 34 Atlantic Highlands, NJ
Many VHF radio has fog horn builtin, some even has listening capability. E.g. Standard Horizon.

You just need to hook up a 8 ohm horn speaker. Doesn't have to be permanently mounted. I have one that just plug in to the VHF and clamp on the bimini frame when needed.
I was thinking of doing the same thing. Or at least until I can mount something on the mast. Just plug it in and temporarily mount it or clamp it to something when I need it. Maybe somewhat forward so not glaring in my ear-out the front or midship hatch. I installed a ICOM VHF new last year and just got a horn speaker. I'll just need a wire extension with some quick connects for a temporary hook up.
 
May 7, 2012
1,574
Hunter e33 Maple Bay, BC
I'm sure this has been covered somewhere prior to now; but I'm wondering how many sail boaters actually install automated fog hailers that operate from the VHF? Doing so requires installation of the hailer (horn) itself (somewhere). But where's a good spot? I just can't see standing in the cockpit attempting to manually blow an air horn every two minutes while sailing (and while also watching the radar and chart plotter, etc.). Would need one crew dedicated to that (horn) task alone. And who would even hear manual horns if motoring in the fog? Planning a trip to a fog-prone area (Central California Coast) and would welcome opinions on the matter!
A typical air horn with a canister will last somewhere around 45 minutes (+/- 15) and is a pain. i have an ICOM M504 that has the built in foghorn functions and allows the user to vary the output frequency and volume. I connected the output wires from the back of the VHF to quick connect speaker connectors. A 5" Standard Horizon round horn speaker (WM) with speaker wire is stored in a cockpit locker ready to be temporarily mounted at the base of the mast (or wherever is convenient) when needed.
 
Mar 20, 2004
1,749
Hunter 356 and 216 Portland, ME
We also have an automated foghorn with the speaker mounted just below the radar on the mast. It is a great help in our frequent Maine fog and can be heard at quite a distance. As was pointed out, without one someone has a full time job being a manual horn!
 
Jul 1, 1998
3,062
Hunter Legend 35 Poulsbo/Semiahmoo WA
For Horn - upping the Ante

For years I've used the Standard Horizon LH5 and it has sufficed well. This model has been discontinued for awhile but it has a lot of bells and whistles. (bad pun). Besides having a no-brainer button panel for being able to select the appropriate signal for under power in fog, under sail in fog, aground in fog, etc., a REALLY nice feature is the Listen-Back one.

While the first thought might be to broadcast ones presence via the horn (whistle) function, the Listen-Back feature, in conjunction with their horn, allows those on the vessel to be able hear better what is ahead. This is really handy, especially in pea soup fog while proceeding slowly because one can hear motors, people talking (but not really understanding what they're saying though), and hear other noises that would otherwise be missed.

To keep the horn as far from the cockpit as possible, it is mounted on a board then temporarily clamped to the push-pit with a reasonably sized wire running aft via the forward hatch to the loud hailer.

Due to the increase in the number of powerboats in recent years, many of whom retire to the inside when it is foggy and cold outside, the plan is to up the ante to an air horn. Unfortunately, this can bring along some complications with regard to installation as the wire size will need to be increased and a solenoid used to operate it with the loud hailer.

Anyway, nothing like having another project in progress.

Remember the sailboat on Clear Lake in California that was T-boned by the out of control deputy sherif and the sailboat operator was cited? Well, it pays to make sure ones actions meet the letter of the law, not that this will necessarily get one off the hook as we so well remember. Okay, so a little bit of sarcasm.

Reference: http://navcen.uscg.gov/pdf/navRules/navrules.pdf

Forgot to mention, the SeaDog below was one I had been looking at last week. 123 dB and it's an air horn with an air pump. I'd really like a louder one but this one is interesting.
 

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