I just bought a Vega!

Oct 31, 2019
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Hey,

Dropping by. I just bought a Vega that was in Virginia, and after surveying it, flew out to look at it. It was so loaded with goodies that I bought it, but I considered every other Vega that I could find for sale on both coasts. It was a little pricey compared to other boats, but when I considered all of the upgrades I woud be doing anyway, it was a no-brainer.

The previous owner had something big on his mind, because it was re-powered with the 13.5 Betamarine (35 hours) 2 basically brand new mains, a new looking working jib, and a 150 genoa with just enough wear to tell that it has been sailed. Autopilot, Furlex furling/reefing, Harken main reefing, brand new dodger and bimini, and at the last second the seller threw in a Navik vane that was partly still in the wrapping. I can't list all of the other goodies that came with the boat, but it would be a lot of money to bring the average boat I saw for sale up to this level. Easily 10 grand, and all of the stuff is brand new.

There was no mast compression evident and the survey came out good with a few chores here and there. Nothing expensive.

I searched and searched for the right small cruiser and I plan on gutting this one for a total interior replacement. There was no rot, but I can rebuild it for more interior room for an absolute max of 2 berths.

I'm going to be sailing it for several months out of some place in Chesapeake Bay. Right now it is on the hard in Lewisetta, which is straight east of Richmond in the country. Any comments on marinas to live out of would be appreciated. Just email me.

I can already see the rather "wimpy" shroud chainplates as being a potential problem, but the biggest question for the surveyor was mast compression damage. This boat was OK. I looked at a lot of pictures of Vegas where this sag was very plainly visible.

As I work through the interior and beef it up, the main thing is a compression post beneath the mast, or even buy a longer mast and step it on the keel. I'll carve out all or part of the locker across from the head to get around it to the V-Berth. Sorry, but this really looks like a weak spot. All in all, from inspecting every inch of the hull interior with a flashlight, the boat really doesn't look super strong. When I have the wood out, I'll ask more questions about any new stringers. I already have a lot of experience with composites. I want to strengthen the boat for offshore singlehanded sailing, and no worries about anything structural.

While I am at it, I think that I will either enlarge the existing cockpit drains or put in two more 2 inch drains. The cockpit is fairly large and the coamings are quite high, or at least look like that to me. Then there are those long windows. Something is going to have to be done there. They are in typical old condition. Fine for weekends, but a little spooky looking.

Basically I wanted a good small cruiser that wouldn't eat me alive with money. I looked long and hard before deciding on the Vega. Some of the other 32 and other boats are too expensive, and one thing I care about is function over appearance. I'm not going to spend 40 grand on teak and brightwork.

Boat number is 1878, "Casual Observer." I'm going to rename it after my mother, Janice, who beat Leukemia. That is a tough lady.

Anyway, glad to meet ya. I'm ready for comments or I wouldn't be posting.

To sum it up, I'm going to fix the compression problem and add some bigger cockpit drains. I'm not too impressed with aluminum plates attached to that bulkhead.

Mark

The number is
 
Oct 30, 2019
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Congratulations Mark, and welcome to the forum.
It sounds like you took the same advice I always offer but never follow: a good well equipped boat is a far better buy than restoring a "cheap" boat!

Reading through your planned improvements there was one item in particular that caught my attention: you idea to put a compression post to the keel or keel step the mast.
The Vega was designed to support the mast on the cabin beam (admitedly weak in it's original version) which transfers the load to the bulkheads, which in turn transfer the loads to the heavy fiberglass flanges around the hull that the bulkheads are attached to.

The beam supports on either side of the opening to the forward cabin do not extend to the floor as that area was not designed to be load supporting.

The bolts holding the bulkheads to the flange are, in my opinion, undersized and could benefit from re-drilling and upsizing to 5/16" or even 3/8". This would clamp the bulkheads a lot more firmly to the hull flange.

One other area of concern could be the forestay attachment at the bow.

Aluminum frame windows are available from VAGB.

If you search the messages on the forum you'll find quite a few references to these topics. In fact, there is not much that hasn't been discussed here, it's quite a resource!

I bought my Vega and sailed her for a year before making any changes. Some things I didn't understand at purchase time became apparent later on. They are a great little ship and I hope you enjoy sailing one as much as I do.

By the way, if you ever want to part with the Navik I would happy to make you an offer!

Oh, and I can assure you: Vegas are super strong!

Peter
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Apr 28, 2000
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Welcome Mark and congratulations on your "New" Vega. Peter about covered it but I wanted to say don't worry about the chainplates. If they are in good condition, the design is plenty strong enough. The only problem we have had with the original equipment on Lealea was the weak stem fitting, easily fixed. Every other problem we have had has been with after-market replacements. We did upgrade port lights and recommend you take care of that before you do any serious sailing offshore.

Welcome aboard and
"Fair winds"

Chuck Rose
SV Lealea, V1860
North Harbor, Petersburg, AK
 
Oct 30, 2019
1,459
Steve Birch makes good framed replacement windows, and a mast beam kit.



Buit don't make too many big changes until you've owned the boat a while.
They are pretty carefully designed.



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Jul 24, 2002
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Since you asked, here are a few options for marinas I know in Hampton Roads (the confluence of James and Elizabeth River, at the southern end of the Chesapeake Bay):

1) Leeward Municipal Marina - decent price, nice location (at the Newport-News end of the James River bridge), but somewhat exposed to westerly winds and quite a bit away from the bay proper:

2) Joy's Marina in downtown Hampton - central location to all of Hampton Roads and the Bay. Quite nice and snug - not very large.

3) Southall Landings Marina in Hampton - very nice, with swimming pool and gorgeous nature around. Easy access to all of the South Bay. Some shoaling but no problem for a Vega

4) Marina Cove (600 Harris Creek Rd, Hampton) off the Back River, run by Erling Engelsen. Definitely the most "gritty" (cheap?) option of the ones I've listed, with plenty of space to put the boat on the hard and work on it as you seem to intend. (However, I would second the motion of trying it out first before getting into a major overhaul project - wasn't the reason to buy a basically "ready-to-go" boat that you would like to sail it? ;-)

- Sebastian (VegaLyra 1060)