I fixed my GPS Rollover issue

Feb 17, 2006
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Lancer 27PS MCB Camp Pendleton KF6BL
Didn't know I could until I did a LOT of reading.

I use a Garmin GPS12 at the helm for my autopilot. Also use it just to keep tabs of where I am in the world (LOL). Anyway...

I recently turned in on and it took awhile to get a lock, but a lock it did. I checked the time and date and they were both wrong. This was expected due to the 2019 Rollover. However, the date was 25 May, 2003. That was surprising. Now this Rollover did not affect my Lat/Long so I never gave it much thought and probably knew about the wrong date years ago.

A few days ago I found a software package that corrected the date and time function on the GPS12. Downloaded it but it need to use Windows XP and a RS232 port. Well, talk about dating technology. Not to worry, I have an XP laptop (don't ask). Found all the stuff to connect the GPS to the PC and bang... the date and time are now correct.

So I guess I am good possibly for the next Rollover in 2039. Looking forward to seeing if the date gets messed up again. I'll let you know.
 
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May 17, 2004
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Beneteau Oceanis 37 Havre de Grace
However, the date was 25 May, 2003. That was surprising.
The date epochs are 10 bits, which represents 1024 weeks. The last epoch was August 22, 1999 to April 6, 2019. The current epoch is April 7, 2019 to November 20, 2038. That puts us 196 weeks into the current epoch. Your GPS thought we were 196 weeks into the previous epoch, so that’s why it said 25 May 2003.

Kudos to Garmin for supporting their old devices and making software available. Just make sure you keep that XP machine and RS-232 cable around for another 16 years. ;)
 
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Mar 20, 2015
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C&C 30 Mk1 Winnipeg
Good one!

Not surprised that you needed XP and RS232.

I bought a Panasonic Toughbook for exactly that type of reason. Unlike more common laptops, it has a full set of ports.
It triple boots XP, Win7, and Win10 and I can flash firmware, and use software for all sorts of devices with it.
 
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Jun 2, 2004
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Hunter 23.5 Fort Walton Yacht Club, Florida
I've still got a machine running Windows 3.1. I drag it out on occasion just to thrill kids who were born after I put the thing together. Kinda like the rotary phone I used to make my daughter and her friends use.

Now I have to dig out my GPS 12 and work on getting it updated. It's the only one I have that connects to my outdated VHF.

Great winter activities
 
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Mar 20, 2015
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I've still got a machine running Windows 3.1. I drag it out on occasion just to thrill kids who were born after I put the thing together. Kinda like the rotary phone I used to make my daughter and her friends use.
What.. no Sinclair ZX81 kit ?

Love the rotary phone vs kids idea.

I have one beside the TV. Always wanted to repaint it and have a cover like the Batphone.
 
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SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
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A converter could be a lot cheaper then trying to find a Windows XP version pc.
 
Mar 20, 2015
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C&C 30 Mk1 Winnipeg
A converter could be a lot cheaper then trying to find a Windows XP version pc.
Unfortunately you often need to use XP and some newer machines won't support it. In those cases you can run a Virtual Machine like VMware on a newer OS, even on a Mac., but they can introduce their own issues. Yay :what:


That said, modern machines can have RS232 ports... But they are commercial ones, often ruggedized and not usually cheap. Check out Toughbook prices.:yikes:
 
Feb 17, 2006
5,274
Lancer 27PS MCB Camp Pendleton KF6BL
I've still got a machine running Windows 3.1. I drag it out on occasion just to thrill kids who were born after I put the thing together. Kinda like the rotary phone I used to make my daughter and her friends use.

Now I have to dig out my GPS 12 and work on getting it updated. It's the only one I have that connects to my outdated VHF.

Great winter activities
Rick, if you need to software, it is here. You will find it at the bottom of the page and is called GPSEOW.ZIP. Hope you have the cables, otherwise you might be bashing your head against the wall. LOL
 
Jun 11, 2004
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Oday 31 Redondo Beach
I don't think I need my old Garmin units to tell me what the date is do I ?

What I would like to see is for them to show the current tide charts that they no longer have.
 
Jun 2, 2004
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Hunter 23.5 Fort Walton Yacht Club, Florida
Rick, if you need to software, it is here. You will find it at the bottom of the page and is called GPSEOW.ZIP. Hope you have the cables, otherwise you might be bashing your head against the wall. LOL
Thanks
I have the cable to plug the GPS into a serial port I attached a serial port to the radio that is how I connect the two.
Should be straight forward enough if I go after it. A sane and reasonable guy would just chuck it.
 

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SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
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CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
One day there will be a computer that types what our minds think...
Tell then I just hope my fingers will type what I say out loud.