Hurricane Sandy tidings

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Dec 13, 2010
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Hake 32RK Red Bank
Sitting in Kingston Jamaica With Sandy bearing down last week I was glad to have my boat in NJ getting ready to trailer her south. Now I am glad at least that she is in the yard on her trailer ready to travel so now its finger crossing time hoping nothing crazy happens due to wind blown debris!
 

MacFam

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May 15, 2012
2
MacGregor M25 Alexandria
Potomac River, Alexandria VA:

Moved it Saturday, from the mooring ball to a marina downriver with floating docks. It's way up a tiny creek/inlet so it's more protected from the wind, and the pilings are about 8' or so above water at high tide.

- stripped sails
- removed propane stove
- doubled up on lines/fenders
- removed some valuables

Not sure how bad it's going to get (or not), but we didn't want to take any chances. Our thoughts are with those closer to the coast. And with the crew of the HMS Bounty - may the rescuers find the remaining two crew.
 
Jul 2, 2012
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Jefferson 45 Naples
We've been aware in SW FL for over a week

Hauled our Hunter 23 a week ago in the rain and wind Friday, expected this storm back then, just didn't know how bad it would be until a week ago Sunday/Monday. Had no computer access till Sunday. I put it on a trailer and drove 50 miles inland and parked it on top of a steep hill as far as possible from trees in a small field (my back yard).

I think the various weather services did a horrible job. This storm (un-named at the time) was clearly on their computer screens by Sunday/Monday a full week ago and they decided we didn't need to know the possibility existed. They could have said 40% chance of mid Atlantic landfall hurricane, or whatever % they wanted, instead of predicting "Nothing but Blue Skies, from now on". Even this morning (10/29/12 Monday), the National Hurricane Center (NHC) has NO HURRICANE warnings, not even for New York City. I don't know what the agenda is, but I know they are funded by taxes from us and their job is to give us warning, not entertain graduate students in a meteorology class with asinine technicalities. These distinctions were not made in the past. Probably the Hurricane of '38 would not be called a hurricane by today's NHC. Possibly no hurricanes this far north would be called a hurricane by the new technicalities.

Here is a computer image I POSTED A FULL WEEK AGO, Monday 10/22/12 :




Notice that the date of the map is Monday,10/22, also be aware that the ECMWF is proven by charting to be more accurate than the GFS, especially out more than a few days. The GFS flip flops around and gets it close around 3-4 days out. There was not "initial spread, but now the models are reaching consensus". Instead the ECMWF held steady since 10/22, and the GFS flipped totally and moved to what the ECMWF said all along.

I'm not knocking the GFS, I'm saying ALL the weather services had the ECMWF on their screen and refused to let us know. The replica Tall Ship Bounty was just lost in this storm, they were safely in New London CT on Thursday and headed out. The water in New London is so deep huge tankers go way up the sheltered river. If the weather services had been honest this sad loss could have been averted. All crew were saved by exhausted rescue personnel who risked their lives and equipment, and spent a ton of money doing it.

I'm furious, and hope all will write their congressmen. The weather service could easily give percentage odds, we know what it means. They will say "we don't want to panic people." Well, of course people panic when they don't find out till the last minute, when they could have had at least a full weeks warning to be aware, something awful is lurking on our horizon.

Here is a link to the sailnet site where I posted that map a week ago Monday, just in case anyone doubts it. Unfortunately the thread was disrupted by men who prefer arguing to allowing the information to get out, fortunately three people pulled it back on track, after a couple days were wasted.

http://www.sailnet.com/forums/general-discussion-sailing-related/93377-halloween-hurricane.html
I think they have done an outstanding job, of course, we've been watching in SW FL..the weather services we have been watching have said for over a week that this is what was going to happen
 
Dec 13, 2010
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Hake 32RK Red Bank
For last summer's hurricane August 2011 I stripped all canvas and boom doubled sll lines snd tied them high on pilings. Good thing too because one bow line got caught under dock roller at surge and was cut off as dock fell too much slack is not necessarily a good thing snd neither is too little! Good luck all
 

LloydB

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Jan 15, 2006
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Macgregor 22 Silverton
Early warning

There had been an earlier warning from Stephen Martin Saxby an amateur astronomer but you may need to google it as the local media didn't carry it. It's worth a read even though it is a little wordy.
 
May 3, 2008
252
Catalina Capri 22 Half Moon Bay
Good luck to all...
Hope everyone -and their boats, make it through OK.

-JAMES-
"Bella Barchetta"

BTW...I'm with "Whatever" ...they've been doing an excellent job with this storm since it formed!
Not sure what service "Skygazer" has been watching, but I've been hearing about all week?!?!
 

faithd

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Apr 7, 2009
8
Oday 27 Solomons Island, MD
The intensity of most storms is directy inverse to the level of the preceeding hype. :eek:

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing, laughing at all the folks in the DC area who were buying any generator for sale.
Who would have predicted that the Capitol region would have taken so much of the storm? We were whipped raw with the bands surrounding the eye all night long. We have new leaks in our relatively new home, there are trees down everywhere and I hope my storm preparations were adequate - but like others, I am very worried about the surge and how the docks fared.
Wrapped foresail with sheets, wrapped mainsail and cover with main sheet - lashed the heck out of it. Doubled dock and spring lines; checked, and rechecked bilge pump and scuppers. Made sure fenders were set properly... this is my first hurricane prep and I'm certainly nervous. I wish I would have hauled out.
 

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Dec 25, 2008
1,580
catalina 310 Elk River
Well, we seem to have come through OK, never would have predicted this considering that the forecast was for a direct hit. Apparently the eye strength disintegrated considerably by the time it reached us. We got about ~6" of rain with winds from the N at most ~50Knts, which is off shore for us. Fortunately when we got to the return flow the river level was normal so the wave action was not destructive to our pier. High tide this morning had the water over the pier, but no wave action. Have not been over to see Witz, but called and no problems to report. I guess I have paid my dues from the Derecho, Irene and Snowmageddon.
Hope all was as luck as I was.
 
May 3, 2008
252
Catalina Capri 22 Half Moon Bay
Glad to hear the reports of yachts unharmed...
Unfortunately, we all that some will not be so fortunate.
Toys can be replaced, lives cannot... be safe over there!

As with the loss of any vessel, the loss of the Bounty and some of her crew is sad indeed...



...but I'm always proud of my aviator brethren in the USCG executing a good rescue!!

-JAMES-
"Bella Barchetta"
 
Jan 4, 2007
406
Hunter 30 Centerport
From

Hurrricane Sandy really slammed Long Island. Thre south shore was hit harder but here in Huntington on the north shore trees are uprooted everywhere. No power, gasoline shortages and boats plucked like match sticks from their moorings. Took a full day to chainsaw the road to the house with 3 saws and 4 families. They are saying no power for a week. I thin or will be more like 10 days. I was bemoaning having pulled my H-30 2 weeks ago because last week was such good sailing weather. Now I glad I'm on the hard. Haven't had a chance to even stop by the boat yard to check. In Brooklyn on the barrier islands between the Atlantic and the mainland there is utter
devistation. One of
My friend lost his house and business and 2 cars in a 1 hour period. The storm surge on a full mop and high tide was immense and in lower NYC millions are without power, water or food. When hey taly of a million without power they mean households not people.
 

zeehag

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Mar 26, 2009
3,198
1976 formosa 41 yankee clipper santa barbara. ca.(not there)
diana--how did you guys do??
 
Jun 19, 2004
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Island Packet IP 32 99 Forked River, NJ
Report from Good Luck Point Marina in Ocean Gate, NJ on the west side of the Barnegat Bay, across from Seaside Heights:
Many power & sailboats were pulled out prior to Sandy's arrival. Those that were not trailered out were carefully blocked inside the marina property. On our arrival there on Wednesday night (unable to get through the high water 'till then), we were AWESTRUCK at the devastation! Virtually all boats - many over 30 ft- had floated off their stands and were now piled up at the western edge of the parking lot as if they were toys! We couldn't get close enough to find our boat at that time, so I had to wait until today to see. We found Roy, Gail, Roy Voss Jr. ,their crew and half a dozen boat owners working feverishly to put things back together, both inside (3 ft of water inside the marina office & shop!) & out. Anyway, so far they have located half a dozen or so boats marooned in the marsh area to our east (site of the old AT&T longlines radio station). Over 15 boats are just plain missing at this time.
We had opted to leave the Merry Bee in the water, so on Friday last, I doubled up all dock lines, stripped all canvas, and went home with my fingers crossed. I finally got a look at her today: I had to wade through 6" deep mud, climb over 2 boats, piles of lumber, picnic tables, etc. Expecting to see a large Silverton sitting on her deck, I was amazed to find...
... our Merry Bee, just sitting in her slip as if nothing had happened!!! I still can't believe it!
 
Nov 26, 2008
1,970
Endeavour 42 Cruisin
We were headed to Manteo (outer banks, nc) on the way south from Norfolk. Decided to head inland and did quite well. Gusts of 55, steady to 35 with no surge. Lucky this time...
 
Jul 30, 2012
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O Day 28 foot Fernandina Beach
wonkodsane
How did all turn out. My hope is safe and well tended.
We were good down here. I know of no one to sustained injury.l
boatsail1
 
Jun 5, 2010
1,136
Hunter 25 Burlington NJ
Oh, the irony.

How ironic that those of you in NC and VA did not get this one so much and we in NJ-- who typically scoff at the doomsdayers' hurricane reports-- got it all. What comes around goes around.

Someone suggested that statistics favor the boat on land, not the one in the water. I can account for this only by surmising that the boats in the water must have been unattended. It's vital to keep cockpits empty-- scuppers may not be big enough. It's vital to keep your at-anchor heading relative to storm conditions. You can run an engine to relieve the strain. You can fend off errant flotsam coming at you. You can tend rigging and/or even set a riding sail if it's called-for. It's vital to mind docklines as tides rise-- the docks won't fare as well as your boat will, so don't take them for granted. These things probably aren't done for unattended boats left in the water.

Leaving your boat on land has all sorts of problems. But chief among them is not worry about windage. Bare poles present really very little resistance on a boat properly blocked. That 6 inches' width of spar isn't enough to blow a 6000-lb 27-ft boat off proper blocking in 75 MPH of wind. That's what the keel is for! But it's the sails left on, covers (like mine) that can catch air, tops and other gear that can catch enough wind to get the boat shaking, and that will loosen earth under stands and even shear chains and lines holding stands together. Again, unattended boats fare worse.

The other big worry is standing water, which softens ground and, in extreme locations, can course across the yard in waves. That's what I worry about; and I put extra stands under it and tied them securely together; and it was fine.

My heart goes out to all those at the Shore who had extensive property and boat damage; but last I heard NJ had fewer than 10 fatalities. Any man's death diminishes me, because I am a part of mankind; but it seems amazing that the human cost was as little as it was, at least here in southern NJ where we got it full in the face. Now comes the task of helping each other rebuild what has been damaged.

I appreciate all those who have expressed concern. Perhaps prayer does help, after all.
 

zeehag

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Mar 26, 2009
3,198
1976 formosa 41 yankee clipper santa barbara. ca.(not there)
cousin in nj found her boat!!!!
morgan marina is gone --their pile driver is under water--my cousin's boat decided to show her nose above water--is in wet storage until someone can help her raise it...
hopefully other places have better luck than morgan marina, keyport, nj....
 
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