Hunter 33 pong

[Scott B]

Hi Jay
Thanks for the very informative post. I wasn't able to see the whole run but when I opened up the area under the aft berth the nasty smell was impressive. From an odour perspective, PVC would be great. It will not smell and neither should the tank. I am delighted that you are able to fix your problem by replacing the hose pieces.

But smell isn't the only consideration. The run from the toilet on the 33 must be close to 15 feet. Imagine how much pumping and water is required to get waste all the way into the tank. If done properly, it would fill the holding tank very quickly, greatly shortening the time available between pump outs. And, in my case, there was the smell of the cushions and bunks. I didn't want to take a chance on having to replace the lot.

i'd be delighted to hear that the close placement of the tank to the toilet in the more recent version of the 33 solves the problem.

cheers
john

The long run doesn't take any more water than normal, just enough to empty the bowl. It takes 6-7 pumps to get everything to the tank. We typically can get 6-7 days when we're out before needing a pump-out but by then, we're very low on food, beer and ice, so need to hit a marina anyways.

 

[Peggie Hall HeadMistress]

PureAyre does work wonders, but....You can never eliminate any odor unless you first eliminate the source...'cuz as long as the source continues to exist, it'll continue to generate new odor. So first you have to find and fix any leak or replace the stinky hoses, then thoroughly clean the site, including every nook and cranny ...a good scrubbing with detergent and water. Mop up an excess water and let the air dry till it's at least only damp...no standing puddles. Now you're ready to eliminate the residual odor. Use PureAyre full strength...I'd use pump garden spray jug set to a fine mist. Spray every surface, nook and cranny...just a light spray. Do NOT rinse...just let it dry with hatches open so that plenty of fresh air can circulate. If the soft goods in the cabin have picked up the odor, just spraying it on the surface won't do much...you need to spray enough on carpets and rugs to penetrate to the backing...enough to penetrate cushions to the middle from both sides..not enough to make 'em drippy, just enough to get into the cushion....you'll prob'ly have to remove the covers and send 'em to be cleaned. Again, just let everything dry....put cushions and anything else that isn't nailed down out on deck to dry in the sun all day. If you still have any odor, you missed a spot.

And btw...PureAyre is not an air freshener...It's the only product I've found that eliminates ANY odor. Not only will it get of diesel and residual odor left behind by stinking sanitation hoses, but PureAyre is also rated for use around food...which means you can even use it to get rid of the odor left in your fridge by the steaks or fish that spoiled when a natural disaster took out shore power for 3 days. Also does a great job on musty PFDs and foulies.

It's available from pet supply stores and other retailers including Amazon. The "household" version works just as well as the "marine" version and costs less. A spray bottle won't go very far...plus, it's cheaper in the long run to buy it by the gallon...it has an indefinite shelf life, so just keep it on hand.

--Peggie

 

[Peggie Hall HeadMistress]

The run from the toilet on the 33 must be close to 15 feet. Imagine how much pumping and water is required to get waste all the way into the tank.

More proof that boat builders are really bad sanitation system designers <sigh>...
However, there's a work-around that'll save a lot of pumping AND water: Any toilet that's working anywhere close to factory spec can lift bowl contents up to 4'...so install a loop--doesn't have to be a vented loop, just a loop (Raritan SaniFlex hose is flexible enough to create it) -- in the discharge line immediately after the toilet (aim the discharge fitting straight up) that's just a little higher than the inlet fitting on the tank...creating a downhill run from the top of the loop. So you'll only need to pump long enough to push the flush over the top of the loop...gravity will get it the rest of the way. Better yet, pump the flush in the DRY mode (the toilet WILL push it over the loop), switch to WET to send some clean water behind the flush to rinse out the hose.

--Peggie

 

[Scott B]

PureAyre does work wonders, but....You can never eliminate any odor unless you first eliminate the source...'cuz as long as the source continues to exist, it'll continue to generate new odor. So first you have to find and fix any leak or replace the stinky hoses, then thoroughly clean the site, including every nook and cranny ...a good scrubbing with detergent and water. Mop up an excess water and let the air dry till it's at least only damp...no standing puddles. Now you're ready to eliminate the residual odor. Use PureAyre full strength...I'd use pump garden spray jug set to a fine mist. Spray every surface, nook and cranny...just a light spray. Do NOT rinse...just let it dry with hatches open so that plenty of fresh air can circulate. If the soft goods in the cabin have picked up the odor, just spraying it on the surface won't do much...you need to spray enough on carpets and rugs to penetrate to the backing...enough to penetrate cushions to the middle from both sides..not enough to make 'em drippy, just enough to get into the cushion....you'll prob'ly have to remove the covers and send 'em to be cleaned. Again, just let everything dry....put cushions and anything else that isn't nailed down out on deck to dry in the sun all day. If you still have any odor, you missed a spot.

And btw...PureAyre is not an air freshener...It's the only product I've found that eliminates ANY odor. Not only will it get of diesel and residual odor left behind by stinking sanitation hoses, but PureAyre is also rated for use around food...which means you can even use it to get rid of the odor left in your fridge by the steaks or fish that spoiled when a natural disaster took out shore power for 3 days. Also does a great job on musty PFDs and foulies.

It's available from pet supply stores and other retailers including Amazon. The "household" version works just as well as the "marine" version and costs less. A spray bottle won't go very far...plus, it's cheaper in the long run to buy it by the gallon...it has an indefinite shelf life, so just keep it on hand.

--Peggie

The PurAyre was in response to my question on how to get rid of the rubber smell from the Trident 101 hose 3 yrs old.

 

[jaysweet]

Of course they would, see my post above. Contorted arm jammed up to my elbow in the access plate under the cabinets in the aft cabin, with side cutters on the tips of my fingers. Spent about an hour getting 1 cut and then hoped I could get my arm back out....

Sorry: I guess I skimmed some of the middle postings... I missed that you had done this in the exact same model boat.

 

[Scott B]

Sorry: I guess I skimmed some of the middle postings... I missed that you had done this in the exact same model boat.

No worries. I couldn't believe they would put a zip tie that far out of reach with no way of getting at it. Now