Hunter 32 Vision

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rickk31

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Nov 7, 2009
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Hunter 22 bloomington,in
Does anyone have a opinion on the Hunter 32 Visions.I am thinking about putting one In the gulf to live and play on a few monthes out of the year. I am kind of new to sailing (all fresh water). One thing I am concerned with is the mast. Thank you for any help you can give me.

Rick
 
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Rick D

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Jun 14, 2008
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Hunter Legend 40.5 Shoreline Marina Long Beach CA
Check the search here for a lot of information. The mast is thelast thing you should be concerned about assuming it's not been physically damaged somehow. It's actually of much less concern than a stay-supported mast. Anyhow, it was a great boat that I owned for nine years and if I ever downsize, I'd buy another.
 
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Steve Dion

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Dec 2, 1999
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Hunter Vision-36 Rio Vista, CA.
Rick had one and I have one! Ours is the 36' Ricks was a 32'. What is your concern about the mast? If you are really concerned there is a used mast for a 32 in the gear ads. I suppose it was the only thing that survived when the boat was totalled!

These masts were produced by a "Light Pole" mfg. Ours is sectioned (don't know about the 32).

Easy boat to sail and can take one hell of a blow. We have had ours out in 30-35 kt winds and a full main running down wind. While I do not recommend this (for me either) it is nice to know that it will do it. Unlike a traditional rig, the mast bends and help spill wind.

I assume the boat you are looking at has a 3GM which should move her along at hull speed without any problem.
 
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rickk31

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Nov 7, 2009
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Hunter 22 bloomington,in
Hey thanks guys. It was nice to hear from people that has or has had one. I think I would rather have a 36 Vision but I think I will settle for the 32. Thanks again.
 
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Steve Dion

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Dec 2, 1999
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Hunter Vision-36 Rio Vista, CA.
Rick:

I have never heard about one of these masts failing. The one on the 36' weighs in around 800 lbs +. If you look at the specs between the 32 & the 36, I think that the 32 is probably a slightly better preformer for its size.

Overall they are very spacious for their size (you already know that).

My boat was really like new. It was a 1994 with about 100 hrs on the motor and had been very lightly used. When we bought it, it was about 12 years old.
 
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RonRelyea

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Sep 2, 2009
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Hunter Vision-32 New Hamburg, NY
Hunter Vision Mast

Rick D & Steve ... so the 36 Mast weighs 800 pounds? On my 32' I'm considering doing a trip, part of which is on the Champlain Canal - involves de-masting ... so I have a 53+ foot mast that weighs ????

Is it ridiculous to think of carrying the mast with me (10 feet of overhang at each end???) Or should I just consider this a motoring trip???

Thanks!

Ron


Steve Dion said:
Rick:

I have never heard about one of these masts failing. The one on the 36' weighs in around 800 lbs +. If you look at the specs between the 32 & the 36, I think that the 32 is probably a slightly better preformer for its size.

Overall they are very spacious for their size (you already know that).

My boat was really like new. It was a 1994 with about 100 hrs on the motor and had been very lightly used. When we bought it, it was about 12 years old.
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Rick D

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Jun 14, 2008
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Hunter Legend 40.5 Shoreline Marina Long Beach CA
Re: Hunter Vision Mast

I am not familiar with the area, but I'd be darn careful with that overhang. As to stepping / unstepping the mast, Steve is better qualified than I to comment on the degree of difficulty. Good luck!
 
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RonRelyea

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Sep 2, 2009
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Hunter Vision-32 New Hamburg, NY
stepping / unstepping

I had the mast unstepped in South Carolina and had the boat trucked to NY last July. There weren't any major obstacles except that I missed the best part of the Marina crane getting the mast in .... I live about 3 miles from the marina and ran home for 20 minutes, and in the interim, the marina crew went ahead with the crane work due to an approaching electrical storm ... by the time I got back, all I had to do was insert the 18" (approximate) bolt through the base and bottom of the mast and put the nut on. and then hook up the electric and plug in the antenna.

Actually- had one hitch ... the marina crew left the forestay as it arrived by truck ... no one eased the rigging to create some slack ... I backed off on the bottom turnbuckle as much as possible but still needed two people struggling to put down-pressure on the forestay so I could get it attached to the furler base.

I guess I need to connect with some canal travellers to find out about the overhang. You West coast guys don't need to worry about canals!

Any guesses as to the effect on the center of gravity effects if I put the total weight of the mast horizontally above the cabin?
 
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Ed Schenck

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Jun 2, 2004
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Hunter 37-cutter, '79 41 23' 30"N 82 33' 20"W--------Huron, OH
Wow, 800 pounds! I suppose the 32's mast is not much lighter. I would not "worry" about overhang, you would just have to be very careful. But that weight will be a definite problem. On the Erie Canal at least there is enough wake from other boats to really get you rolling. The frames we built for hauling the masts would not have worked for you. They were 2x6 and we still had to use a lot of line to keep them from swaying with 300 pounds of mast and rigging.
 

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Steve Dion

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Dec 2, 1999
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Hunter Vision-36 Rio Vista, CA.
There are a couple of issues. 1. you will need a very strong support to hold the mast. 2. You will need a seal for the 12" hole in your deck.

I have no idea of the trek, so I have no advise one way or the other on the idea of even thinking about doing this trip.
 
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RonRelyea

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Sep 2, 2009
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Hunter Vision-32 New Hamburg, NY
Ed ... I think you convinced me NOT to try this ... thinking about what you said about the Erie Canal (which I WILL do some time in the future) --- "there is enough wake from other boats to get you rolling" ....

In a narrow canal I imagine the effect of other boat's wakes could be magnified (resonant sine waves??) and really cause a rolling problem. I don't know about naval architecture but I know I would definitely be raising the center of gravity of the boat by carrying the 800? 600?? pound mast horizontally above the cabin and add this to magnified wake ???? I can do an eskimo roll in my kayak but it wouldn't be fun to go "turtle" 16 miles into the Erie Canal ....




Ed Schenck said:
Wow, 800 pounds! I suppose the 32's mast is not much lighter. I would not "worry" about overhang, you would just have to be very careful. But that weight will be a definite problem. On the Erie Canal at least there is enough wake from other boats to really get you rolling. The frames we built for hauling the masts would not have worked for you. They were 2x6 and we still had to use a lot of line to keep them from swaying with 300 pounds of mast and rigging.
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RonRelyea

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Sep 2, 2009
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Hunter Vision-32 New Hamburg, NY
mast support and seal ..

Thanks Steve ... I could handle the carpentry for the support and seal ... what I'm really worried about is what Ed mentions about rolling and stability ...


Steve Dion said:
There are a couple of issues. 1. you will need a very strong support to hold the mast. 2. You will need a seal for the 12" hole in your deck.

I have no idea of the trek, so I have no advise one way or the other on the idea of even thinking about doing this trip.
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Rick D

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Jun 14, 2008
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Hunter Legend 40.5 Shoreline Marina Long Beach CA
Re: mast support and seal ..

Um, won't the COG be lower with the mast down? However, the rolling will be sharper, less damped, right?
 
David in Sandusky

David in Sandusky

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Nov 8, 2007
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Hunter 27_75-84 Sandusky Harbor Marina, Ohio
Interesting discussion...

I think Rick is on the right track. Taking the mast down will lower the center of gravity, and significantly reduce the angular momentum. I took our h27 4 miles on Lake Erie in two footers with the mast down on the way to get the mast step rebuilt. The roll was uncomfortably pronounced and jerky.

Let's remember that the Vision 32 has 4500 pounds of ballast. And we would expect it to easily carry 800 pounds of rail meat.

Great pictures, Ed. I would try to carry the Vision mast closer to the cabin roof. But that would mean ducking it every time they use the companionway on the trip.

Just curious - do you have to drop the mast on the Lake Champlain route?
 
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Ed Schenck

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Jun 2, 2004
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Hunter 37-cutter, '79 41 23' 30"N 82 33' 20"W--------Huron, OH
It is not so much about the COG which would obviously be lower. More it is about making supports solid enough to withstand 800 pounds swaying from side to side. The deck can handle the weight assuming the supports are properly located. And David is right, you would want it low on the boat. Maybe off center so the companionway is not an issue.

There were three of us, two with arches. We all wanted the mast to be above the bimini. It is a long way from Lake Erie to the Hudson and we wanted to keep the head knocking to a minimum. :)
 
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Mulf

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Dec 2, 2003
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Hunter 410 Chester, MD (Kent Island)
I don't remember where, but I read a post on a sail blog

where the owner had his mast trucked from the marina on the Hudson to the Marina at the other end. Seems like a great idea given the concerns you are discussing.
 
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RonRelyea

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Sep 2, 2009
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Hunter Vision-32 New Hamburg, NY
Hunter Vision Mast / Canals

Thanks to all for some great input! I hadn't even thought of trucking it! Duh .. I trucked the whole boat from SC to NY!

Food for thought on this gloriously snowy day in upstate NY!
 
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