Hunter 23 keel resting on trailer/other Hunter questions

KE5HVM

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Mar 31, 2023
5
Clark San Juan 7.7 10 Lake Conroe
Good morning,
Long time listener, first time caller, so I hope I'm in the right place and posting this the right way...

I am interested in a 1986 Hunter 23 that I took a look at this weekend. Interested enough that I drove 4 hours each way for the visit...

When I arrived, everything was as it was in the pictures, and I knew what to expect.
The keel had quite a bit of clumpy rust (knew that going in and am prepared to deal with, should I proceed with the purchase)
The bottom needs a good cleaning (also knew that going in). the "crud" on the bottom is just lake scum that dried. It flakes off really easily and will clean up nicely.
Cabin was in good to excellent shape, with dry bilges and no corrosion around keel bolts.

My only two concerns were:
The aft end of the keel was resting on the metal part of the trailer
Now, from what I've read on this forum, the Hunter 23s should have about 70% of the weight of the boat should be on the keel, with the remaining 30% on the trailer bunks. I've also seen that there are usually wooden boards under the keel...this trailer did not have those.
From pictures I've seen, it looks like the forward, beefier end of the keel should be resting on those boards...in this case, it's the thinner, pointier end which is resting directly on one of the trailer cross-members (metal-on-metal), and not good for a 250 mile drive home.

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My other concern was that the keel almost seemed slightly bent to one side...ever so slightly to starboard.
Now, this could be an optical illusion from looking at the waterline and how it was sitting on the trailer (not perfectly centered, but you can almost make it out in the picture)
There were no cracks in the hull/keel bedding that I could see (which you would expect if the keel really had been bent).
This is the best picture I have of it...and it's kind of hard to tell from this picture.

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I've read the restoration thread, and paid special attention to the parts about removing the rust form the keel, so that's not a problem.

The cabin, cockpit, mast, and deck all seem to be in good order (just need to be cleaned). Trailer looks to be in good shape, as well.

I am BRAND NEW to the Hunter world, having more experience with Catalina 25's and Catalina 22's.

I have heard some disparaging things about Hunters in general, and with wing-keel boats in general, and a few things about Hunter 23's in particular.

I've heard that Hunter 23's:
-Heel excessively
-Point 5-10 degrees lower than other boats of comparable size.
I am sure some of those can be rectified by sail trim, reefing, and human ballast nut, since it seems to be mentioned frequently, I thought I would bring it up.

I would be using this boat for "beer can" races from March through October on an inland Texas lake, as well as for leisurely cruising on that same lake with the family.

So that's where I'm at...trying to decide if this boat (including outboard, trailer, battery, set of sails, jib roller-furling, clear titles) would be worth it, knowing that is needs a hull cleaning, and rust removal/filling and fairing/repainting of keel. I believe it to be a fair price, and within my budget.

I'm also looking at a Catalina 25 and Catalina 22. I thought a Hunter 23 would be a good compromise between those two.
 

BobH57

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Oct 23, 2019
91
Hunter 410 Solomons, MD
I've owned both Hunter 23 and Catalina 22 boats years ago, and preferred the Hunter. While the Cat 22 pointed a bit higher with it's swing keel, the cabin was more cramped and less comfortable if we spent much time on it. Neither were much fun to trailer and rig, so ended up spending most of their time in the water. Good luck with whichever boat you end up with!
 
Apr 27, 2010
1,277
Hunter 23 Lake Wallenpaupack
I don't find my 23 overly tender. Of course, you need to watch things. I've had the gunwales a little in the water, but it didn't feel like it would go over much further. Hard to imagine the keel could have been bent, given there is no deformation of the fiberglass, and I assume you checked where you can see the keel bolts. As stated above, stepping the mast isn't a one person, 20 min job, so I would not want to be trailer sailing it. It can also be a bit challenging to get it positioned properly when pulling it back onto the trailer and you'll want a decently long ramp.

Do look at the wood bulkheads where the chainplates attach, as if the cover plate isn't sealed properly water will wick into the edge of the bulkhead and weaken the plywood. If that is the case, it is doable to replace them yourself, but a bit messy. You could bargain down the price if so.
 
Jun 8, 2004
10,326
-na -NA Anywhere USA
The owner of the boatf would not allow anyone to board. The bow was not all the way up to the bow chock missing it by three inches. Unknown about age of tires. Unknown as to age of bearings. No keel tray boards.

unless the owner corrected the above item, the boat is unsafe to tow. There is no known lift to pick up boat inn a small country town. The boat will shift easily when towing with keel sitting on bare metal. Trailer has surge brakes but unknown if working at all

I advised boat is unsafe to tow home 4 1/2 hour trip home
 
Apr 27, 2010
1,277
Hunter 23 Lake Wallenpaupack
I sure as hell wouldn't tow it at more than about 5 mph unless I knew the tires, brakes and bearings were all in good shape, and it was well secured on the trailer. I had to replace the entire braking system on mine, from a new surge coupling, all new hoses, new brakes, new bearings, new tires, before I towed it on any road.
 
Jan 19, 2010
12,548
Hobie 16 & Rhodes 22 Skeeter Charleston
If you have fallen in love with this boat then there is nothing left to do but fix the problems … ask the owner to put it back in the water and then do the trailer mods to get the keel tray right … check the tires… repack the bearings … and make sure the breaks work. While in the water you can go on board and check out the lay of the cabin… and make sure the sails are not blown…

then get her right on the trailer…. And While the bottom is still moist stop at a self serve car wash and pressure wash the bottom and drive her home:beer:
 

KE5HVM

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Mar 31, 2023
5
Clark San Juan 7.7 10 Lake Conroe
Thank you for all your responses.
They have all been very helpful and they are appreciated, but I think I have decided to move on and continue my search elsewhere...somewhere a little closer to my home lake.
Thanks, again, everyone, and have a great weekend and happy Easter!