Hull plug.

Oct 30, 2019
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Hi Folks,I have read of folk "glassing over" the hull plug - before I do this is it a good idea? OK, it improves the security of the hull plug but is it necessarily a good idea, when it is time to come ashore again one will have to remove the glassing. This winter was not cold (at least in the wilds of Essex) but you can bet that if the plug is left in, we will have a cold and wet winter.
What is the general consensus regarding glassing over.Thanks Geoff#################################################Geoff Blake, G8GNZ JO01fq: Chelmsford, Essex, UK
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Oct 30, 2019
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My personal opinion is to leave the plug accessable. Put a little thread locker/sealant on the threads just to make sure it's water tight, and it should be fine.Petermostlyaboutboats.com
 
Feb 13, 2010
528
I would not glass the plug in. If you take the boat out for the
winter and you do get water in the bilge and it freezes there could
easily be damage. The plug will never fall out the most that can
Happen is a minor leak around the threads. I usely put a little
grease on mine before screwing it back in, in the spring before
launching. That will stop it from leaking and it does not have to be
tightened real tight. After some years of working in boat yards a s
a young man I have never heard of a plug causing any real problem.
Doug Po0llard
Albin Vega Sea Legs 2225
KK4YGO


On 03/06/2014 04:55 AM, Geoff Blake
wrote:
 

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Oct 31, 2019
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Hi Guys,Talking about that, any ideas on how to remove one that seems to be blocked? And the crack of screws is damaged...thank you!To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.comFrom: dougpol2@...Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2014 14:55:06 -0500Subject: Re: [AlbinVega] Hull plug.









I would not glass the plug in. If you take the boat out for the
winter and you do get water in the bilge and it freezes there could
easily be damage. The plug will never fall out the most that can
Happen is a minor leak around the threads. I usely put a little
grease on mine before screwing it back in, in the spring before
launching. That will stop it from leaking and it does not have to be
tightened real tight. After some years of working in boat yards a s
a young man I have never heard of a plug causing any real problem.
Doug Po0llard
Albin Vega Sea Legs 2225
KK4YGO


On 03/06/2014 04:55 AM, Geoff Blake
wrote:
 
Apr 2, 2013
283
Hi There,I pulled the whole housing out, three screws and done. If those screws are damaged. Drill them out, epoxy holes and install new plug assembly. LarrySent from Windows MailFrom: marie marieSent: ?Thursday?, ?March? ?6?, ?2014 ?12?:?09? ?PMTo: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com






Hi Guys,Talking about that, any ideas on how to remove one that seems to be blocked? And the crack of screws is damaged...thank you!To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.comFrom: dougpol2@...Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2014 14:55:06 -0500Subject: Re: [AlbinVega] Hull plug.









I would not glass the plug in. If you take the boat out for the
winter and you do get water in the bilge and it freezes there could
easily be damage. The plug will never fall out the most that can
Happen is a minor leak around the threads. I usely put a little
grease on mine before screwing it back in, in the spring before
launching. That will stop it from leaking and it does not have to be
tightened real tight. After some years of working in boat yards a s
a young man I have never heard of a plug causing any real problem.
Doug Po0llard
Albin Vega Sea Legs 2225
KK4YGO


On 03/06/2014 04:55 AM, Geoff Blake
wrote:
 
I removed and replaced the receiver of the garboard plug last year just after I bought my boat Kalista (#1454). When I bought Kalista there was no garboard plug aboard (fortunately she was out of the water!) and I couldn't figure out how a plug would stay in the hole in the side of the bilge. Either there had been no threads in the hole or the threads had been filed down for some reason during the ten years she had been out of the water. Either way I was glad the plug had been removed because there was quite enough mildew inside as it was. Had there been a plug in the hole she'd have been full of water up to the bridge deck. I ground out the old receiver/hole and epoxied and screwed in a new one. The plug has a square head which accepts a regular 'wrench' (or you could use a 'spanner' or any number of less specialized tools in a pinch) so there's no risk of being unable to find a special tool at launch. The threads on the new one are standard tapered pipe thread (NPT here) and I used teflon tape so I have confidence in it not leaking. Since it's a standard thread, should the need arise I could substitute a plumbing fitting for the plug if I needed to. I considered glassing over it but don't think there's a need. If it ever seems Iike the boat will be in the water for a longer time I might put a layer of glass over the plug but only after protecting the head of the plug with something so that it doesn't become irremovable. Our sailing season is only about six months and then haul-out again and I want to be able to remove the plug for the winter. As an earlier poster stated, it's great to be able to remove the plug when the boat's out of the water so that any water that gets in can also get out. Can anyone tell me if the original garboard plugs were threaded in or was there another arrangement which remains a mystery to me? Thanks Carl in Toronto, Canada From: lewills30@...To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.comDate: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 01:04:26 +0000Subject: Re: [AlbinVega] Hull plug.







Hi There,I pulled the whole housing out, three screws and done. If those screws are damaged. Drill them out, epoxy holes and install new plug assembly. LarrySent from Windows MailFrom: marie marieSent: ?Thursday?, ?March? ?6?, ?2014 ?12?:?09? ?PMTo: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com






Hi Guys,Talking about that, any ideas on how to remove one that seems to be blocked? And the crack of screws is damaged...thank you!To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.comFrom: dougpol2@...Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2014 14:55:06 -0500Subject: Re: [AlbinVega] Hull plug.









I would not glass the plug in. If you take the boat out for the
winter and you do get water in the bilge and it freezes there could
easily be damage. The plug will never fall out the most that can
Happen is a minor leak around the threads. I usely put a little
grease on mine before screwing it back in, in the spring before
launching. That will stop it from leaking and it does not have to be
tightened real tight. After some years of working in boat yards a s
a young man I have never heard of a plug causing any real problem.
Doug Po0llard
Albin Vega Sea Legs 2225
KK4YGO


On 03/06/2014 04:55 AM, Geoff Blake
wrote:
 
Feb 13, 2010
528
AS far as I know they are threaded in with a tapered pipe thread.
In metric tapered threads there is only one type as far as the
metric standard goes. There may be some countries that use a
divfferent standard so a metic pug from some country other than
Dutch may not fit into the female hull fitting. Here in the states
we have two kinds of pipe threads, One is dry seal and needs no
teflon tape or pipe sealer. The other has to have a sealer there are
reasons for both. Unfortunatly the people who sell them likely don't
know the difference so I would use some kind of sealant or grease.
I am not sure but I think all bronze marine pipe threads are dry
seal but I would seal anyway.




On 03/07/2014 06:00 AM, Carl Cavannah
wrote:
 
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Aug 31, 2010
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Carl, be aware of the experience of on UK sailor who misguidedly replaced the plug with a standard plumbing fitting - it aparrently corroded away due to electrochemical action and the boat sank on its mooring. The correct material for the plug and fitting is bronze.
Geoff#################################################Geoff Blake, G8GNZ JO01fq: Chelmsford, Essex, UKgeoff@... or melecerties@...
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Feb 13, 2010
528
Yes and take note Brass is not bronze. Brass has zink in it and we
all know what happens to zink in saltwater. Doug
On 03/07/2014 05:36 PM, Geoff Blake
wrote:
 
Nov 8, 2001
1,818
That is a true story, I know the vega and I know
the ex-owner!

Steve B
From: Geoff Blake
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 10:36 PM
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [AlbinVega] Hull plug.
Carl, be aware of the experience of on UK sailor who misguidedly
replaced the plug with a standard plumbing fitting - it aparrently corroded away
due to electrochemical action and the boat sank on its mooring. The correct
material for the plug and fitting is bronze.

Geoff

#################################################Geoff Blake,
G8GNZ JO01fq: Chelmsford, Essex, UKgeoff@...
or melecerties@...Using Linux: Ubuntu 11.04 on
Intel or Debian on UltraSparcand Apple OS X 10.8.2 Mountain Lion on my
Macbook Pro.
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On 7 March 2014 11:00, Carl Cavannah ccavannah@... wrote:
 
Thanks guys. Sharing scary stories helps keep other people safe. All is bronze and in all likelihood it will stay that way. Anything else would be temporary but it's nice to know I could substitute if I needed to in a pinch. Carl To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.comFrom: steve@...Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 00:36:00 +0000Subject: Re: [AlbinVega] Hull plug.



That is a true story, I know the vega and I know
the ex-owner!

Steve B
From: Geoff Blake
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 10:36 PM
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [AlbinVega] Hull plug.
Carl, be aware of the experience of on UK sailor who misguidedly
replaced the plug with a standard plumbing fitting - it aparrently corroded away
due to electrochemical action and the boat sank on its mooring. The correct
material for the plug and fitting is bronze.

Geoff

#################################################Geoff Blake,
G8GNZ JO01fq: Chelmsford, Essex, UKgeoff@...
or melecerties@...Using Linux: Ubuntu 11.04 on
Intel or Debian on UltraSparcand Apple OS X 10.8.2 Mountain Lion on my
Macbook Pro.
Avoiding Micro$oft like the
plague.#################################################