I would like to find out how to read the hull number. we have a Daysailer II hull number XDYD8349M77C what year, and any other information I can find out.
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XDYD8349M77C
XDY = O'DAY
D = Day Sailer
8349 = Class# (you have the 8349th Day Sailer built)
M77 = 1977 Model Year
C = month of build, in this case, October 1976 (Model years ran August to July)
So, you have the 8349th O'DAY Day Sailer built and she is a 1977 Model built in October 1976.
For comparison, my boat is XDY10201M79E-D
That means: mine is the 10201st Day Sailer built and she is a 1979 Model, built in December 1978 (My HIN is 13 digits long because O'DAY ran out of room for the full class number once they passed class# 9999 and had to move the "D" to the end <GRIN!>.
PS: If you would need an Owners Manual, let me know.
XDY = O'DAY
D = Day Sailer
8349 = Class# (you have the 8349th Day Sailer built)
M77 = 1977 Model Year
C = month of build, in this case, October 1976 (Model years ran August to July)
So, you have the 8349th O'DAY Day Sailer built and she is a 1977 Model built in October 1976.
For comparison, my boat is XDY10201M79E-D
That means: mine is the 10201st Day Sailer built and she is a 1979 Model, built in December 1978 (My HIN is 13 digits long because O'DAY ran out of room for the full class number once they passed class# 9999 and had to move the "D" to the end <GRIN!>.
PS: If you would need an Owners Manual, let me know.
Since HIN's are the topic. Can anyone explain the "0000" in the HIN for my 1985 O'Day 222? The full HIN is XDYJ000h485.
Thanks,
Dale
Thanks,
Dale
Well, my first guess is that a digit is missing from that HIN. There should be 12 digits and you only list 11.
XDY = o'DAY
J = 222 (also used for 22)
xxxx = Class#
H = month code for build year (August in this HIN format)
4 = last digit in the year when hte boat was built, 1984 in this case.
85 = 1985 model.
The Model years actually ran August to July (1985 model year was Aug 1984 to July 1985). So, your boat was built in August 1984 as a 1985 model. O'DAY seems to have built about 200 or so 222s in the 1984 model year, so your boat should be a class# between about 200 and 300, but closer to 200 than 300. It appears that they built about 300 or so in 1985 model year.
Maybe youir HIN should be more like XDYJ0200H485?
Actually there are 12 numbers in the HIN. I omitted one additional "0" in the class/sequence portion. The correct HIN is XDYJ0000H485. Here's a picture of the HIN on the transom. The "0000" portion has been a mystery as as an '85 I would think it should be somewhere in the middle to later part of the 222 production run.
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I don't know?? Could the boat have been built on a Monday or Friday..... and the guy putting the numbering into the mold somehow "accidently" put in all zeroes?? Beats me!
Just to satify curiousity. I'd recommend a call to Rudy at D&R Marine (508) 644-3001 He was the Parts Dept. Manager at O'DAY from 1973 to 1989 and now runs a little shop making and selling O'DAY Parts. He is also our "Guru" for O'DAY info. He might get a laugh out of this!
I can tell you that you definitely do not have Class# 10,000 or Class# 0. You are correct that a 1985 model 222 would, or SHOULD have a Class# more in the 200s to 500s. Production of the 222 was from model year 1984 to model year 1987 or 88.
Gosh, I wonder if this makes your boat worth more?? You know, like a mistruck coin or a backwards paper bill?
Added: 03-01-2014
I showed Rudy that picture of your HIN today, he couldn't figure out what the story was either. We agreed that someone must have been "asleep" that day in the molding room!
Just to satify curiousity. I'd recommend a call to Rudy at D&R Marine (508) 644-3001 He was the Parts Dept. Manager at O'DAY from 1973 to 1989 and now runs a little shop making and selling O'DAY Parts. He is also our "Guru" for O'DAY info. He might get a laugh out of this!
I can tell you that you definitely do not have Class# 10,000 or Class# 0. You are correct that a 1985 model 222 would, or SHOULD have a Class# more in the 200s to 500s. Production of the 222 was from model year 1984 to model year 1987 or 88.
Gosh, I wonder if this makes your boat worth more?? You know, like a mistruck coin or a backwards paper bill?
Added: 03-01-2014
I showed Rudy that picture of your HIN today, he couldn't figure out what the story was either. We agreed that someone must have been "asleep" that day in the molding room!
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Hi All - The mystery isn't solved, but we at least have possible explanation. I called DR and talked with Rudy. When I explained the situation he responded with, "that's interesting", not a particularly comforting comment. Anyway, after more conversation, he suggested that, based on the manufacture date, it might be the first 222 built in the California plant.
If anyone has another ideas/info I'd be happy to hear it. As it sits now, the sail had "0000" As its number. A talking point at the least.
If anyone has another ideas/info I'd be happy to hear it. As it sits now, the sail had "0000" As its number. A talking point at the least.
Mine has an "m" as the build date and a "d" at the end. What month is M? It is a 1979 model the D throws me as well.
Well, I don't know the total "code" for Catalinas, (O'DAYs and CALS I do mostly know!) but to use my O'DAY as an example, "M79E" is how my boats HIN ends and the explaination should be same for Catalina.
M79 = 1979 Model Year, E = month code for when built in that model year. Model years ran August to July (for 1979 that would be Aug 1978 to July 1979) so.... if your HIN ends with M79D that would be 1979 Model, built in November 1978 (A = August, B = September, C = October, D = November, E = December,......... K = June, L = July)
daleyellin: I think Rudy might very well have either solved your question or at least given a darn good possible answer. That would make sense based on how other brands of sailboats with more than one factory numbered boats. The West Coast plant may have been unsure what the Class# should be and just went with a "fudge factor"! There certainly wouldn't have been another 222 with Class# 0000, so they were sure they wouldn't accidently repeat a number. However, one would think they could have phoned/faxed the Fall River, MA plant to verify what the proper Class# should have been to insert into the HIN? Oh Well!
M79 = 1979 Model Year, E = month code for when built in that model year. Model years ran August to July (for 1979 that would be Aug 1978 to July 1979) so.... if your HIN ends with M79D that would be 1979 Model, built in November 1978 (A = August, B = September, C = October, D = November, E = December,......... K = June, L = July)
daleyellin: I think Rudy might very well have either solved your question or at least given a darn good possible answer. That would make sense based on how other brands of sailboats with more than one factory numbered boats. The West Coast plant may have been unsure what the Class# should be and just went with a "fudge factor"! There certainly wouldn't have been another 222 with Class# 0000, so they were sure they wouldn't accidently repeat a number. However, one would think they could have phoned/faxed the Fall River, MA plant to verify what the proper Class# should have been to insert into the HIN? Oh Well!