Hoyt Jib Boom

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Jun 15, 2010
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Catalina 22 Capri Gig Harbor
Last year at the end of the summer I bought a 2001 22' Capri. Nice boat with a lot of toys. One thing it came with was a Hoyt Jib Boom. The owner's son did not know much about it and the guys here in the harbor have never seen one on a 22. It also limits me to a 100% jib which does not work too well with the light winds here. Any tips would be appreciated.
 
Aug 11, 2011
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catalina 22 Islamorada
Not familiar but in my non professional opinion I'd say its an after market item that isn't necessary but might be nice at times for single line headsail usage. Again just an opinion.
 
Oct 17, 2011
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Ericson 29 Southport..
Hmm, is unusual on a C22. Nothing wrong with it, it is usually relegated to the self tending variety. Is it sheeted to a single block, located near the center, in front of the mast? It should be. WAY simple mechanism to operate, but kinda takes the "thrill" out of a conventional headsail in my opinion. Or the option of changing sails for the given wind situation.

I probably wouldn't go to the trouble and expense of adding one, but despite what I said earlier, if I had one already on there; I might be inclined to leave it..
 
Feb 26, 2004
23,003
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
Google it, was used on tons of Island Packets, for instance. Yes, a very clever self tending jib arrangement and you're right about the size of the headsail. The IPs used them on their staysails. Does cut up a chunk of foredeck, but even when we had ur C22 on a lake during the summers, we were rarely on the bow, more in the cockpit, either sailing or swimming or reading. There was, though, that one looong Labor Day weekend when there was this storm, see, and we spent it down below. As a result, I rarely play cards anymore...OTOH, it did prompt us to find a larger boat, sooner. :)
 
Oct 17, 2011
2,809
Ericson 29 Southport..
MMhmm. I moved an Island Packet 38 a couple of weeks ago that had a stay sail boom. Although the lines were led aft, it did seem that I had to plan my trips forward, to avoid climbing over that boom. I can't knock it though, like you said, that IP is some kind of nice boat. I've got to visit it one more time at it's slip tomorrow, and see if I can't find out what's "going on" with the A.P. I think, in all honesty, that I'll be glad when it kicks off south, been working on it on and off for five months..
And by the way, the boom really did work great. You have to roll up the headsail every time you want to tack though. Which would not be the case with the 22' I might add. I rambling. More coffee NOW..
 

StanFM

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Jun 26, 2012
276
S2 7.3 Lake Pleasant, AZ
Hey guys, dumb question... I looked the Hoyt boom up and looked at their diagrams. What keeps it from slamming across the deck when you jibe?

Stan
 
Oct 17, 2011
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Ericson 29 Southport..
Not much. Ideally you would sheet it in tightly, which will center the boom, and then let it out slowly into the wind.
A preventer might work.........but I would not do it for several reasons. Up forward, these things should be left in the hands of the extremely confident. That person would not be me.

Just PERSONALLY speaking, I try to avoid the jibe anyway. The shock loading can be tremendous. And boom brakes would be cost prohibitive in my opinion, unless you just happen to have one.
 
Jun 15, 2010
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Catalina 22 Capri Gig Harbor
StanFM said:
Hey guys, dumb question... I looked the Hoyt boom up and looked at their diagrams. What keeps it from slamming across the deck when you jibe?

Stan
Not much, but there is a line (I that diagram it's call the jib sheet) that slows it down, but it does come across fast.


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StanFM

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Jun 26, 2012
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S2 7.3 Lake Pleasant, AZ
Yeah, it looked like the jib sheet goes from the clew end forward to where the boom swivels, and then back. Not a lot of trimming then.

Stan
 
Oct 17, 2011
2,809
Ericson 29 Southport..
Ok, my bad, but I just looked at that Hoyt arrangement. Ooops. But, that line that runs forward from the clew is the outhaul. All it does, (or should be doing), is tightening the foot of the sail. In heavier air, you would want it tight, to flatten the sail area. Conversely, it should be more loose in lighter winds for more belly in the sail. But I can see now why it would slam in a jibe. Without looking at the actual diagram, I assumed it would have a single block in the middle. Wrong. This slamming could be controlled with a preventer, by adding another block on each side, running a line to the end of the boom left and right.
(Notice how I avoided that whole port and stbrd thing). Then run those lines back to the cockpit so that you could slowly pay it out if you jibe. I would almost be inclined to put a single block at center, and just avoid the whole mess, but maybe that sheeting setup provides a better tensioning of the leech. Still, if you pull that jib sheet down very tight before you jibe, it may take some of the shock out of it, but the preventer is sure enough going to do it. I'd keep the end of the preventer line in a clam cleat though, getting rid of it before a broach will be a lot less sphincter tightening..
 
May 23, 2007
1,306
Catalina Capri 22 Albany, Oregon
Wow, that sucker is really high, too. It could ruin your day for sure. I presume the foot of the jib sits above the boom? At least you won't have any worries about seeing under the sail.

I agree, living in a light wind area too, I'm not sure I'd install one either. I'm down in Oregon and sail on Fern Ridge Reservoir.

Maybe prior owner was a single hander and wanted a self-tending jib. Personally, i just have long sheets for the blade and run them back to the genoa winches instead of the cabin tops. The main takes care of itself on a tack and I deal with the jib. Once that's done I make any adjustments necessary to the main.

Aside from the Hoyt Jib Boom, what's your set up? I've got a 2001 fin keel, tall rig.

You should post on the Capri 22 forum at www.capri22.net too; if nothing else your jib boom will generate some interest and discussion.

Chris
 
May 23, 2007
1,306
Catalina Capri 22 Albany, Oregon
Oh yeah, maybe you can take out the boom and switch back to a standard furler set up? I presume the boom sits in some kind of doodad in the deck and can be removed without leaving a gaping hole in the deck.
 
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